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Old 09-20-2006, 12:56 PM
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Great works bravo. Cameraken & Flora. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!











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Old 09-20-2006, 09:56 PM
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Excellent work, Flora! That was a nasty image indeed.

Just for fun I tried several major color-correction plug-ins (1-click as well as slider types) and couldn't get close to what you did manually with most of them . The best I could do was with Color Washer, followed by slight refinements in iCorrect Edit Lab.

Advantages: Much faster--a few clicks and slider adjustments.

Disadvantages: You have to buy extra stuff...

It's the eternal choice when editing images (either speed or savings).
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Old 09-21-2006, 12:06 AM
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Flora,
That was amazingly, breathtakingly stunning!!

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Old 09-21-2006, 12:08 AM
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Good work all.... Flora I don't know how you keep track of all your steps.

I know for my version I used shadow/highlights on the red channel copy and replaced both green and blue channels.

From there I used mostly Hue/saturation and curves adjustments. I did not have much luck with selective color.

I did I think get it at least acceptable but could not list my steps.... I went back and forth too much.

Sure would be nice to know the true color of the couch... notice how every rendition has a different hue. If a retoucher knew at least one color for sure I think it would be easier to correct.

Butch
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Old 09-21-2006, 02:43 AM
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WOW... thanks everybody!!!



Murray,

thank you so much for your kindest comment ... actually I'm a bloodhound ... meaning ... I don't let go until I get a result I can accept, or I completely lose the 'scent' ...

ahmetturker,

If I haven't done it yet, welcome to RP!!

thank you so much for your kind feedback!!!

plugsnpixels,

thank you so much for your kindness!!

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Advantages: Much faster--a few clicks and slider adjustments.

Disadvantages: You have to buy extra stuff...

It's the eternal choice when editing images (either speed or savings).
... Right!!!
Personally, I have very few extra plug-ins ... I enjoy trying to find ways with PS which, in my opinion, is still the "Ferrari" for image manipulation ...(I'll probably get shot for this.. ) ... But PS is only a hobby for me, so, I'm never under time pressure when I work with it ... I'm sure that if I were a professional restorer/retoucher, I'd probably appreciate speed...

Pam,

thank you so much for your kindest comment!!!

Butch,

thank you!

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Flora I don't know how you keep track of all your steps.
.... Well ... in this case it was just 3 of them... ... Kidding aside, I simply keep them all ... meaning:
  • Instead of applying the corrections directly to the Layer, I work with Adjustment Layers .. this way, I can always go back (step by step) not only to change things, but also to check what I tweaked in a particular AL (Levels, Curves, etc.) and which values I used or changed...

  • I always Merge Layers by making sure I've activated the topmost visible Layer and keeping the ALT key pressed while 'Merging Visible' .... this procedure creates a new Layer containing all the corrections done so far on top of all the other Layers without 'flattening' the image ... that means that I can go back to each step I took before merging...
This keeps me from asking myself: how on earth did I do that?? ... and allows me to give detailed explanations (including snapshots) of each step I took working on a picture even if asked weeks after having posted it...

Were it not for these procedures, (you need a very large HD for this..) I couldn't remember a thing ....
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Old 09-21-2006, 06:11 AM
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Hi Flora Great job.

I had another go at this, using Lab. The noise is easier to eliminate by blurring the a and b channels but the sofa comes out fawn (very similar to PlugsandPixels image.)

Re. the woman in the picture.
It is unusual to see Her without her crown.

Ken.
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Old 09-21-2006, 06:37 AM
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Thank you so much Ken!

I'm going to try the LAB way too...

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Re. the woman in the picture.
It is unusual to see Her without her crown.
...My very first thought when I could see her clearly!!!
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Old 09-21-2006, 02:11 PM
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Wow! What an overwhelming response! Thanks to everyone so very much for trying to help me out.



Flora - Your attempt is fantastic! Let me see if I can figure out how to replicate your steps. Thanks for being so detailed in your description. I will work on this tonight and post back here my best attempt.

And I apologize for the small attachment size in my original post. I brought the original image with me to work when I made this post, and I had to resort to Microsoft Photo Editor for the resizing. I have attached a much larger file if anyone would like retry with a better image.

Thanks again to everyone. I will post my finished image later on.



Oh, and as for the color of the couch, I may be able to find that out soon. I have already scanned another slide of people on the same couch that did not have the color damage. There were so many people sitting on the couch though, that I couldn't see any of it. So I'm hoping I will come across another slide of the couch to get the real color.
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Old 09-26-2006, 04:36 PM
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Re: Red 35mm Slide - How to Color Correct?

Flora,

I have tried more than once to duplicate your steps to get to your final image, but I haven't been able to get an 'acceptable' image as you have. I am wondering if I am doing this step correctly, as steps 2 and 3 are pretty self explanatory:

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1* Duplicated the Red Channel, run Levels on the duplicate to improve tone and contrast a bit, copied it and pasted it on the damaged Green Channel. (Attachment 1)
I duplicated the channel and ran Levels. Then I did Ctrl+A to select the "Red Copy" channel, Ctrl+C to copy it. Then I selected the Green channel, and hit Ctrl+V. Is this correct? If so, how else could I be messing this up?
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:41 AM
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Re: Red 35mm Slide - How to Color Correct?

Hi lamboe80,

thank you so much for your kindness!!!

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I duplicated the channel and ran Levels. Then I did Ctrl+A to select the "Red Copy" channel, Ctrl+C to copy it. Then I selected the Green channel, and hit Ctrl+V. Is this correct? If so, how else could I be messing this up?
This is absolutely correct and after this first step, your image should be a strong 'greenish yellow... Back to the Composite view (RGB) and to the Layers, after running the Levels on composite RGB and Blue you should get the 'horror' I got (3rd Attachment on my first post) ... but I guess you are working on the full size/resolution image... so the values I used for the image posted might have to be changed get the same/a similar result...

After reading your post, I downloaded the bigger sized image and used exactly the same steps as for the small one ... only adapting the tweaking to the new size/resolution...
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