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09-21-2006, 05:21 AM
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Princeton, NJ
Posts: 184
| | | Advice on an Important(?) Picture I ran across this Depression era photo and found it oddly intriguing. Does Depression + Intriguing = Important? I welcome all opinions.
It is a really scrungy negative. I lightly applied Polaroid D&S, liberally applied noise filters to the essentially imageless top and bottom areas, brought out a few things with screen and color dodge layers. In order to nail those dark areas I applied a duplicate multiply layer and unmasked the areas of interest.
I am left with alot of grain.
Undecided. Should I stop where I am, forge ahead or deposit it in the round file?  I am leaning towards stopping where I am. What would you do? | 
09-21-2006, 06:33 AM
| | Member | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ludlow, Shropshire
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| | | I haven't time to do this right now, but I'll have a bash later, in the meantime you could try:
- Dupe the bg layer
- Move tool, nudge using arrow keys : up, up, left, left
- Change blending mode to :'Darken' for light grain or 'Lighten' for dark grain.
- Then make a new layer, copy all layers and paste. (Ctrl, Alt, Shift,E)
- Move tool, nudge using arrow keys: down, down, right, right
- Change blending mode to: 'Lighten' if you used the 'Darken' mode previously or - 'Darken' if you used 'Lighten'.
Repeat the process using the vice versa.
Hope that helps. | 
09-21-2006, 07:05 AM
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| | | Thanks squggle. That's a new tehnique for me....However, I couldn't get it to work. Did you leave something out? | 
09-21-2006, 08:33 AM
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| | | Nope don't think so, I tried it on your image and it's not working because it's a very lo-res image.
What resolution image are you working on? | 
09-21-2006, 09:41 AM
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| | | Hi Blue Dog
I think you have done an excellent job. You are at the point where the only way to get rid of more gray noise is to darken ...a trade off.
I gave it a try but could do no better than you maybe someone will have better advice.
Sure wish someone would develop a filter that measures adjacent colors to a threshold controlled gray. It would make restorations a lot easier. The smudgy gray is always frustrating. You can see some detail and tone but you just can't quite get it from behind the gray grunge.
Butch | 
09-21-2006, 10:29 AM
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| | | Squggle and Butch, Thanks for the feedback.
Squggle, it was scanned from a 116 negative at 600 dpi in 16 bit B&W. Originally I scanned everything at 1200 dpi in 24 bit color, but it was taking so long to digest it and I suspected it was overkill. I wonder, if you are used to working at 300 dpi, do you have to double the size of the moves for 600dpi? But then, the resolution of the posted version is only 1/3rd of that. | 
09-21-2006, 12:53 PM
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| | | Squggle,
Got it. Messed around with it and got it to work. My problem was in misunderstanding reverse. Works good with the obvious compromise in sharpness. Thanks. | 
09-21-2006, 01:43 PM
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| | | My work.
The life is beautiful. | 
10-19-2006, 11:46 PM
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| | Re: Advice on an Important(?) Picture Quote: |
Originally Posted by ahmetturker My work.
The life is beautiful. |
That's great!
Please tell me how you did it?  |
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