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Old 09-25-2006, 07:10 PM
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Re: Darned shadows! Please help....

Hi, Flora

Sorry for the delayed reply; it's been a busy weekend!

The young man does not have a moustache - it's very dark shadow.
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Old 09-25-2006, 07:16 PM
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Thanks for the great replies, everyone!

One thing I did try with part of the young lady's face was to carefully select an area of shadow, feather the selection by 5 pixels, copy to a new layer, and set the blending mode to screen. I then added a clipped colour balance adjustment layer, followed by a hue/sat one. I merged the adjustment layers with the shadow layer and then blended it with her face using the healing brush.

That worked well on some areas and terribly on others.

Finding what works where sure does take a hella long time!
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Old 09-28-2006, 07:06 PM
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Re: Darned shadows! Please help....

Okay, I've combined some of your suggestions and played with some ideas of my own, to try to get the best blend of techniques in an effort to make this image as perfect as I can get it.

At the moment, I'm not too worried about the white pants, as I'll try Flora's shadows-on-wedding-dresses tips, but I'll do that later. First up is the skin shadows.

I've selected the shadows from the red channel, and made a mask from that - tidied up to focus on the shadows I want fixed - and then played around with an exposure adjustment of the shadows, including tweaking the gamma a bit. Then used the eraser set at a low opacity to blend any ugly hard edges.

Used a color fill to try to bring back lost skin colour, and then played with various layer and fill opacities to try to get the best blend without bringing back too much of the shadow I'm trying to get rid of.

But I just can't quite make it work as it all looks so unnatural.


Anyone got any advice based on the attached file? I'm going to work on this pic until it's perfect for printing, if it kills me!
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Old 09-29-2006, 04:11 AM
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Re: Darned shadows! Please help....

Personally I don't think the answer lies in removing them totally...but rather to blend them lighter so they don't detract from their features. Lightening, colour correcting the shadows, a bit of cloning and smudging to blend them in more naturally.

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Old 09-29-2006, 05:03 AM
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Re: Darned shadows! Please help....

Hi,

... this is surely a tricky one....

The shadow on the young man's upper lip is so strong that I had mistakenly taken it for moustache ....

I've been working on and off on this picture but was never satisfied with the result... removing the shadow without having the contour of his upper lip disappear (changing his identity) is very difficult... I think Ziaphra is right

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I don't think the answer lies in removing them totally...but rather to blend them lighter
Anyway even if not satisfied at all, here is what I got ... If I have the time, I'll give it another go following Ziaphra's tip...
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Old 09-29-2006, 07:33 PM
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Aye, it's a tricky one, indeed!


But your tips are helping out enormously, so thank you so very, very much!


I'll continue to play around with this, as there is no fixed deadline. Hopefully, I'll have a finished image to post by the end of the weekend, though.


So, thanks again! Your kindness in offering tips and tricks is greatly appreciated.
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Old 09-29-2006, 09:18 PM
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Edit: I did post a pic of progress, but I've changed my mind about: I decided I didn't like what I did so much after all.

Back to the drawing board!

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Old 09-30-2006, 05:49 AM
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Okay, this is a bit better, but still not very natural looking. I guess I'll have to compromise on the natural thing a bit if I'm to *win*.


What do you guys think? Ease up on what I've done a bit, stop right there, or valiantly march on in the same direction?
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:08 PM
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Re: Darned shadows! Please help....

I thought I'd just pop in and let you know that I tinkered away with this some more as and when I found time, and I've settled on the attached as the final result.

I couldn't have done it without y'alls generous tips and tricks! Thanks a gazillion!
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Old 10-12-2006, 03:48 AM
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Re: Darned shadows! Please help....

Hi pepperspray,

Nice work with a difficult subject. A pity the shadow area round the man's mouth.

Because of that I had a little play.

Created new layer. Used Clone tool set to about 5% opacity, unchecked Aligned, then sampled from the light areas on his cheek.

Now I lightened the shadows by cloning over them. (Can't completely lose them without losing underlying image). If you overdo it (easily done), just lower the opacity of the clone layer to adjust.
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