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01-31-2002, 01:58 AM
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| | | Here is an updated version incorporating the comments as listed above... | 
01-31-2002, 10:20 AM
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| | I *REALLY* like that one!
Ed | 
01-31-2002, 11:23 AM
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| | | Tim
Looks good! Thanks for sharing with us.
But one more question, is the thing flat, or does it have a curve to it? I was talking to a friend and she said she had seen something similer but that it had quite a curve to it. Kind of a small version of some of the large old prints you see that have that "bubble" to them.
Now that I have written that, I really do not know if those type of prints have a name... Maybe someone has that info?
Thanks again
Mike | 
01-31-2002, 12:59 PM
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| | | Tim
Excellent job!!! I love the frame. You definately have talent.
DJ | 
01-31-2002, 01:44 PM
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| | | Lovely, Tim. | 
01-31-2002, 04:57 PM
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| | | Mike,
The substrate is flat. I don't think I have ever seen what you are talking about with concave or convex prints...
--tks | 
01-31-2002, 07:23 PM
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| | | Yo, Tim,
Excuse me...but, what the heck is "substrate?" (Pardon my ignorance here.) | 
01-31-2002, 07:38 PM
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| | BEAUTIFUL second version Tim!!!
I like the frame much better than the black, but if it were me, I'd play around with desaturating it a bit. I was playing around with the sliders in the Hue/Saturation dialogue box and liked everything from -40 to -100. Leaving some of the color really complements her hair nicely though.
Jeanie
P.S. Can you please define "substrate" in the new Definitions thread? Thanks!! | 
01-31-2002, 08:18 PM
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| | Tim- I love the new frame!
jeaniesa, Hankster65 - A substrate is simply the underlying material upon which the image or graphic is applied to. In the case of Tim's photo, the substrate is porcelain. If you get a photo silk-screened onto a shirt, the shirt is the substrate.
I hear this term everyday in the sign industry. In fact, sometimes I hear it in my sleep! | 
01-31-2002, 08:48 PM
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| | Tim
The prints I was refering to are usually large (16x20 or so) and the frame is flat, but the glass in the frame sticks out 4 or 5(?) inches. The glass is contured (sp?) kind of like a bubble. The print is usually made on a very heavy substrate that is more like cardboard than a regular printing paper. The photo is contured just like the glass. I think the only subject I have ever seen printed this way were head shots, and they filled the frame. Almost gives a 3 dimensional view of the head, altho they are b&w. I have only seen a couple of them, and both were damaged from dropping the thing and the glass tearing up the photo when it shattered. We copied them with a camera, as this was before digital. I do not think that you could ever scan one  . I think that the photo was printed, then while wet was pressed into the shape, then allowed to dry. Some of them had the chalk type art work done on them. I have been told that one can now buy that type of frame again, but I do not know if one can get a print made like that.
Mike | 
01-31-2002, 09:10 PM
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| | | I like what you've done with the girl, it's a beautiful picture, but you should avoid these plug in frames like the plague. Obviously that's just my opinion. But they are atrocious.
Mig | 
02-01-2002, 02:09 AM
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| | | Mike, thank for the description of the photographs. I have never seen anything like that. It sounds fascinating. I can see how dropping one one would really mess up the underlying photo...
Jenie, I played around with saturation on the frame. I didn't really like it too desaturated. What I liked best was saturation -20, lightness +19. It still is a bronze colored frame but is not so overpowering as the first one.
Mig, I'm not quite sure what you mean by plug in frames. What I used here for a frame is the metal mat I scanned myself from an Ambrotype made in about 1860. I tried to blend it in a little better and make it look less like a bad bluescreen job though...
I can't get over how great this is. To take a picture I was ready to call done, and felt pretty proud of, and to see how it could be made even better. I can't thank you all enough for taking the time to provide your insights and suggestions.
Here is the latest: | 
02-01-2002, 10:23 AM
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| |  BRAVO Tim!! Great job on the frame - I love the way it turned out. Quote: Originally posted by Tim_S I can't get over how great this is. To take a picture I was ready to call done, and felt pretty proud of, and to see how it could be made even better. I can't thank you all enough for taking the time to provide your insights and suggestions. | That's what I love about this site too!  It really helps to have a fresh pair of (critical) eyes look at what you've done - and I've found everyone is so helpful with suggestions that I can't help but try them out and sometimes expand on them.
I think you shoud be really proud of this one!!
Jeanie | 
02-01-2002, 12:43 PM
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| | Tim
I too love the new frame. That's definately a keeper. 
DJ | 
02-01-2002, 01:17 PM
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| | Really great job! Beautiful frame too....I have been following this thread and love what you have done. |
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