RetouchPRO

Go Back   RetouchPRO > Technique > Image Help
Register Blogs FAQ Site Nav Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Image Help Got a problem image? Don't know where to begin? Upload images and ask our users what they think or if they can help

Too much shadow!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 06-27-2002, 04:51 AM
guybrush's Avatar
guybrush guybrush is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1
Question Too much shadow!

Could someone please offer some advice on what to do with this photo. I have been given the task of taking the shadow out of the left hand side and can't for the life of me figure out how to do it without ruining the entire image...
Any help would be teriffic.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg party.jpg (52.8 KB, 86 views)
Reply With Quote top
  #2  
Old 06-27-2002, 08:40 AM
Jakaleena's Avatar
Jakaleena Jakaleena is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 709
Hi! Welcome to RP - glad you joined us...

I'm hoping that you have a cleaner, less pixellated, image. I'm guessing that this one was overly pixellated because of the posting size restrictions here.

Here's what I did:

I used the lasso tool to select the shadowed area, making sure I was placing my selection just at the edge of the shadow falloff.

I switched to quick mask and blurred the mask using gaussian blur until the edges were very soft. You can see this mask-blur method in a couple of the tutorials. It is part of the process in "Smoothing Unwanted Textures" and "Easy Vignetting"

I exited quick mask and used levels to adjust the area inside the selection.

When the shadow borders receded, I deselected and repeated the process, making my subsequent selections smaller to match the receded shadow area.

I did this until there was very little shadow left, and then I selected the area again and adjusted the contrast.

Finally, I used the paint tool to very lightly blend in the wall paint, clothing, etc. and used the dodge & burn tools to touch up any remaining problem areas.

It should produce better results with a batter image and a little more time and care than just my 3 minute whiz-bang gallop through it...

Hope this helps you out some!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg party jak.jpg (96.7 KB, 63 views)
Reply With Quote top
  #3  
Old 06-27-2002, 09:36 AM
jeaniesa's Avatar
jeaniesa jeaniesa is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Colorado foothills
Posts: 1,826
Hi guybrush - welcome to RetouchPro!

Wow - this is a tough picture. I really hope that you have a better quality scan of this photo (and that this isn't from a digital camera), because the JPEG compression in the shadow area has created a block pattern that will be just about impossible to get rid of otherwise.

That said, it is possible to lighten the shadow without affecting the rest of the photo. You have to either use selections like Jak did or layer masks like I explain below.

I used the "fill flash" technique described in this thread. However, because the shadow was so dark, I had to apply it 4-5 times.

Each time I applied it, I used a layer mask on the "fill layer" to mask out the areas that were not affected by the shadow. Then flattened the image and applied again. The layer mask was crucial, otherwise the "OK areas of the image got way too light.

One effect of the fill flash technique is that it seems to increase the saturation of the area it affects. So, after the second time of applying the effect, I started reducing the saturation of the fill layer before flattening.

I did not fix the wall like Jak did, though that is certainly possible.

Please let me know if this isn't clear.

Jeanie
Attached Images
File Type: jpg party2.jpg (85.8 KB, 48 views)
Reply With Quote top
  #4  
Old 06-27-2002, 01:43 PM
fugitive's Avatar
fugitive fugitive is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 469
Here's my vs. If you don't think the colors are not bright enough you can layer with the others.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg shadowdance sm.jpg (97.0 KB, 49 views)

Last edited by fugitive; 06-27-2002 at 01:52 PM.
Reply With Quote top
  #5  
Old 06-27-2002, 02:10 PM
jeaniesa's Avatar
jeaniesa jeaniesa is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Colorado foothills
Posts: 1,826
But Greg - how did you do it? Specifically, how did you get rid of the "blocks"?
Jeanie
Reply With Quote top
  #6  
Old 06-27-2002, 02:27 PM
fugitive's Avatar
fugitive fugitive is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 469
There you go, asking technical questions......................

I used PSP 7 because I can use it better. I spit it into RGB, and worked on the green layer, thru the others away. PSP has some GREAT photo tools that no other proggy has, so I used some of them, Clarify, Edge preserving smooth, adjusted gamma. The way I did it, I couldn't get any more sat. or it would look phony, so left it low key. When in a darkend room or outside at nite, colors strart to go away for the human eye, camera too.
So you can't really have the intense colors like some did.
Your luck if you can get a decent image at all. You know a lot of this could be prevented if folks would just learn how to use their cameras.
Reply With Quote top
  #7  
Old 06-27-2002, 02:41 PM
jeaniesa's Avatar
jeaniesa jeaniesa is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Colorado foothills
Posts: 1,826
If folks learned to use their cameras, we'd be out of work.
Jeanie
Reply With Quote top
  #8  
Old 06-27-2002, 02:55 PM
fugitive's Avatar
fugitive fugitive is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 469
Not me.
Reply With Quote top
  #9  
Old 07-26-2002, 09:41 AM
Aric's Avatar
Aric Aric is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 72
vanity will never die. There will always be a need for a retoucher. There always has been a need. Even in idealized sculpture.
Reply With Quote top
Reply

  RetouchPRO > Technique > Image Help


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[Tutorial] Effectively remove shadow from picture Saikat Photo Retouching 36 07-01-2011 10:38 AM
Shadow Illuminator: Comments Please brajovic Software 14 05-01-2010 11:23 AM
Flash Shadow Removal Ken45140 Photo Restoration 8 02-04-2006 11:47 AM
Drop Shadow WendyW Photo Restoration 12 04-11-2004 10:25 PM
Upgraded Shadow Reduction Action Andrew B. Software 3 12-17-2003 11:34 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2016 Doug Nelson. All Rights Reserved