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Old 11-02-2013, 02:47 PM
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Won't you please help me

No, it's not the Beatles...but don't know what to do with these swans which is part of a series of three images.

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l...U2587-copy.jpg

I think that they're getting lost in the water...have made numerous detailed selections as a "just in case scenario".
I've tried a high/low key approach...they just don't grab me.
Suggestions, more than changing the crop aspect, for adding drama...want an object d'art look, whatever that is.
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Old 11-02-2013, 03:19 PM
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Re: Won't you please help me

Always difficult to anticipate what anothers vision is and what an 'object d'art look' may represent .

Still I agree that the swans are getting lost in the water. One of the reasons is that I guess these may have been shot in late afternoon sun so the yellow of the sun is 'tainting' the overall look.

So decided a change may help trying to retain the yellow of the sunlight on the swans while getting the water to look blue (I like blue water!) thereby increasing the apparent contrast.

Maybe not what you are looking for but at least a starting point?
To do this I used colour balance adjustment layer in PS for high, mids and shadows. Then a curves layer to tweak a little further. Although I did not try masking the swans wings to keep the warmer tones may help.

OTT maybe but you could always tone down the opacity of layers if this is anywhere near the look you are after
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Old 11-02-2013, 06:02 PM
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Re: Won't you please help me

I had tried that approach Tony...it lead to uncertainty.
The high/low key approach has lead to these in the past.

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l...h-key-copy.jpg

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l...orne2-copy.jpg

Just wanted to try a different direction this time...what? not a clue.
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Old 11-02-2013, 06:47 PM
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Re: Won't you please help me

maybe use the yellow...

copy background,

image>adjustments>equalize,

new hue/sat adjustment layer, lower yellow saturation -55, raise lightness +28, black mask, paint birds on mask .. white

Combine all to new layer (Shft+Ctrl+Alt+E) change mode to multiply

Vibrance adjustment layer, vibrance -66, saturation+100, change mode to multiply, delete mask, copy previous bird mask and add bird mask to hide the birds (Birds black, rest of mask white)

Adjust, crop, fade, feather to taste
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:36 AM
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Re: Won't you please help me

I tried to briing more attention to the swans.
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Old 11-03-2013, 12:45 PM
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Re: Won't you please help me

I think that the different direction of colour balance changes to accentuate the differences between swan and water can help lift the image, however as this is not enough in itself perhaps a high or low key effect will get you to be nearer and more comfortable with the image.

If none of this works for you then really the only other options I can think of is applying some 'artistic' or 'stylised' effect/filter.

Perhaps consider posting again or linking to this thread in the Photo Based Art section and asking for opinons. I am sure you will get a load of ideas which may help spur the creative juices

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Old 11-03-2013, 01:43 PM
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Tony, to be honest, I hadn't considered that route. I'll play with that a bit. Thanks!
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Old 11-03-2013, 03:39 PM
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Re: Won't you please help me

You could mask the wings and use Shadow/Highlights>Amount 35>Tonal Width 60(ish) which will pull them away from the background. Make the water darker and/or bluer to enhance the effect.
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:23 PM
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Re: Won't you please help me

I know it's not a fan favorite, but a PATH can sometimes help you quickly isolate the primary subject matter from the background. This will allow you play with the water separate from the geese. I tried neutralizing the geese - as they are white geese. I realize that it is a warm glow sunset type shot, but it seems that the water would/could look more reflective of the sunglow than the geese' wing feathers. Maybe too white for the geese, but you can always use history brush. I also tried to make the water bluer with the whitecaps or reflections being the sunglow yellow - fading less brilliant off in the distance.
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:59 PM
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Already selected the swans...threshold and color selection (White) made sort work of them and the splashes.
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