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Old 01-23-2003, 10:02 PM
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Well here is the results of the image done by simply bluring the background. I have been having problems replacing the background because of a problem I have never run into before. I will have to either figure out how to deal with the problem or start over with a different scan of the image. The image I did all of the work on was scanned with Silverfast AI using the multiple scan option set to 4 passes. This produces an image that looks like an original background with 3 multiply layers. I have to run a levels layer to bring the image up to proper tonal range. Manipulating the image either by removing the background or moving the foreground to a different image results in the loss of the tonal adjustments. I am unable to regain the tonal settings without effecting the new background adversly. Every time I attempt to run a levels adjustment on the selected foreground, even with a mask in place, it plugs in a white background which screws up what I am trying to do with the new background.

I guess I'm Photoshop challenged tonight.
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Old 01-23-2003, 10:14 PM
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my try...

Well, I'm always up for trying to extract things, as I love doing photo manipulation.

Anyhow, I just used masks to mask out most of it, boy, my Wacom tablet/pen sure helps in the finer areas.

Anyhow, I brought them onto a new layer, found a background out of my photo album and dropped that in.

I used various tools, some blur, some clone stuff, added a few adjustment levels.

They don't exactly match up with the sunny day...but not too far off for the amount of time it took me.

Live and learn...good luck with your attermpts.
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Old 01-24-2003, 12:47 AM
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Kevin, even though the background is blurred, the regular pattern made from the hotel balconies is distracting. I think father & daughter would fit well on an old church as a background. I did a wedding a couple of years back with a *tiny* church which I think would work quite well. I'll see if I can find those photos over the weekend. (Of course, that would only work if the subjects are "churchy" type people )

Jeff's idea with the path is also a good one.
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Old 01-24-2003, 08:40 AM
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Hi Jeffery, that background seems to work real nice. Good job. I will need to build up my war chest with a bigger selection of backgrounds.

BigAl you are right. The background is still distracting. I'll have to go back to the single pass scan and do another extraction. Any help with backgrounds would be very appreciated. I need to get my camera out and just go around taking pictures of scenes that would look good as a background. Most of the time when I shoot I am trying to frame a particular subject.

Thanks guys.
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Old 01-31-2003, 07:52 PM
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Thought I would post the end result. I wasn't able to come up with a suitable background. I instead blured the background quite a bit more and desaturated it. This made a more dramatic accent to the foreground than I had previously. My friend was very happy with the print I gave her.

I am going to have to start gathering a collection of backgrounds for the future.
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Old 01-31-2003, 09:13 PM
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Looks very nice.

Do you have a digital camera?? Those will help you amass your backgrounds quickly!

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Old 01-31-2003, 09:29 PM
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Hi Paul, thanks for your compliment. Yes I have a digital camera. I'll have to do just that. Normally I wouldn't take just scenes with no focal point but now I will have to look for some good background scenes and shoot a bunch. Too bad that winter may delay the sunny colorful shots I want. But, I'll have to start now and get what I can.
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Old 02-01-2003, 01:20 AM
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Kevin, a creative and attractive solution. I like it!

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Old 02-01-2003, 09:44 AM
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Thanks Phyllis. This one was different from most I have done lately. It was good experience. I added the frame because I really couldn't push the image any bigger due to the excessive film grain. I need to study more on removing noise of this type. But I guess there is really no substitute for proper exposure.
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Old 02-01-2003, 11:24 AM
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Kevin, You did a really nice job with this! Very creative solution to the problem!

I have successully used Neat Image to reduce excessive grain in images. I don't know if you've taken a look at that product or not, but I use it A LOT!

Jeanie
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