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Old 04-15-2003, 12:16 PM
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OK, I'm back from camping (had a great time! ) and am now ready to try to tackle this problem (again). Thanks for all of the additional suggestions that came in - esp. Flora who pointed me to Katrins' book. Duh! At least I now I have some hope that I might be able to do this and have it look believable.

Margaret:

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Old 04-15-2003, 03:38 PM
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OK, here's what I came up with. I kind of combined a bunch of ideas to come up with this. I chose not to just stretch the good area (using Katrin's technique) because then I would have stretched the texture of the paper as well. And I could never get rid of the "patchy" appearance that the patch tool created. So, I came up with this:

1. Selected a non-hairy part of the arm (the wrist) and copied to a new image.
2. Made a pattern out of that selection. (Went through multiple iterations of filling a large space and then adjusting the pattern to get rid of noticeable repeated areas.)
3. Back in the original picture, selected loosely around the arm, created a new layer above it and filled it with the skin pattern.
4. Set the opacity of the layer to 75% (so that just a little hair from the original showed through in an attempt to make it look "natural."
5. Used the burn tool to add shadowing.
6. Adjusted the color tones and saturation to match the original.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks, Jeanie
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Old 04-15-2003, 04:24 PM
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Here's a little preview from the new edition of Katrin's book (I don't think she'll mind because she's also teaching this in her current seminars):

1. Select arm with zero feather
2. Apply gaussian blur until hair is gone, don't be afraid to go too high
3. Select the entire image
4. Define pattern
5. Use History to undo back to step 1, but leave arm selection
6. Select Healing Brush, huge size, zero feather
7. (here's the tricky part) Select "pattern" as source and use the pattern you just made. IMPORTANT: Click the "aligned" option
8. Paint within selected area with Healing Brush
9. While still selected, add monochrome Gaussian noise to match the rest of the image (not always needed, but helps with this particular image)

Don't forget to delete the pattern you just made, or it will eat up resources everytime you start Photoshop. Also, work on a merged layer. That way you can fine-tune (ie: add a layer mask, lower tranparency, cloning, etc.)
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Old 04-15-2003, 04:35 PM
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Awesome Doug - I'm going to try that right now!

Jeanie (almost never satisfied with my work )
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Old 04-16-2003, 03:36 PM
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Ahhh, but Jeanie, you also got rid of the dot texture. You didn't say you wanted to do that. Now it doesn't match the rest of the photo.
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Old 04-16-2003, 04:40 PM
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Here's a little preview from the new edition of Katrin's book (I don't think she'll mind because she's also teaching this in her current seminars):

1. Select arm with zero feather
2. Apply gaussian blur until hair is gone, don't be afraid to go too high
3. Select the entire image
4. Define pattern
5. Use History to undo back to step 1, but leave arm selection
6. Select Healing Brush, huge size, zero feather
7. (here's the tricky part) Select "pattern" as source and use the pattern you just made. IMPORTANT: Click the "aligned" option
8. Paint within selected area with Healing Brush
9. While still selected, add monochrome Gaussian noise to match the rest of the image (not always needed, but helps with this particular image)

Don't forget to delete the pattern you just made, or it will eat up resources everytime you start Photoshop. Also, work on a merged layer. That way you can fine-tune (ie: add a layer mask, lower tranparency, cloning, etc.)

Doug I tried this technique, but I couldn't get it to work very well.
Number 5 , of your instructions, says to undo back to step 1, but leave the selecton. How do you do this? When I used history to go back to step one, I lost my selecton, even after saving the selection first. What am I doing wrong?

Ken
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Old 04-16-2003, 05:11 PM
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It sounds like you're simply going back one too many steps in the history. Try just going back to right before step 2.
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Old 04-16-2003, 05:32 PM
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Oh Geez, do I feel stupid, I think it was to late last night to be doing this stuff. Of course you're right, I was deleting everything after open in the history palette.

Thanks Doug
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Old 04-17-2003, 12:27 PM
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Thank you very much for the preview, Doug!

.... but here comes another question on the new techique....

...followed each step and got back to just the original selected arm .... my problem starts when I use the healing brush "huge size, zero feather" .... as it doesn't seem to blend the blurred (pattern) texture with the 'grainy' original one, but it substitutes it completely ....
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What am I doing wrong?
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Old 04-17-2003, 02:04 PM
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I doubt you're doing anything wrong. The result I got was a bit too smooth for this particular image, which is why I recommended adding some noise. This is more of a retouching technique as opposed to a restoring technique, so perhaps an image with obvious paper grain isn't the best use for it.
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