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Old 04-22-2003, 03:37 PM
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Question how to restore hairs and ornaments (challenge ?? )

I try to mail it as TIFF but smtp server fails everytime , so I post it here.
I am trying to retouch and color it, but could not get the hair details and ornament details. please help me to learn this. I am a newbe.

my work is in the next post.

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Old 04-22-2003, 03:44 PM
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Unhappy my work

its looks like hard, overexposed on face, just ignore background.
I have used neat image for removing dusts, and lost the hair and ornament details...
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Old 04-23-2003, 08:59 AM
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Saikat.

I was very impressed with your results.... what were the setting with that Neat image, do you remember?

Agree with you about the other, hope some of our Master Guru's with much more expertise than I will show you how to help this problem.

Tried to darken the face's & used curves to bring back some of the lost hair. The woman is very lovely.

Hope this helps .......
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Old 04-24-2003, 12:25 AM
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This is a beautiful picture.
You did a fine job with it.
Check out the woman's hair by bringing the brightness way up. You'll see problems there.
As for making more definition in the hair you can dodge or paint hair in with a 1 pixel brush and then give it some character with displacement filters.

I have to say, if this was an arranged marriage, this guy won the lottery.

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Old 04-24-2003, 11:56 AM
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I have to agree it is a beautiful and sensitive handling of the subject. The only thing I see is a slight 'halo' around the gentlemans head.

Still, lovely work, you have used vibrant colours and still produced an authentic retouch.
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Old 04-24-2003, 01:42 PM
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MIG , I try it but couldnot find a suitable way to apply displacement filter,
please explain a bit with example if you can

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Old 04-24-2003, 05:01 PM
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Hi Saikat, everybody!


Saikat

I think you did a great job on this picture ... your colorizing technique is superb! But I agree with you about the unreal "plastic' finish you got after using Neat Image .... (maybe the settings were too strong?)

In my opinion, your picture wasn't actually too noisy so, in the example attached, to improve the skin without losing too many details, I didn't use Neat Image at all ... The technique I used is described in my submission in this thread

I used the Curves to fade the overexposure a bit, and an Overlay Layer to enhance highlights and shadows.

As you can see, I worked only on skin, hair and jewellery .... I'm not as good as you in colorizing, and the colours I used may not be of your liking, it's just one of the many methods you can try for improving and colorizing a picture while remaining as close as possible to the original photo texture. (usually, I would leave it 'noisier' than this .... )
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Old 04-25-2003, 04:11 AM
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hair and ornament details

I miss this help section at first so I am posting here now,

Flora, Mike, Mig, Goldcoin help me to rectify but I can't reach the optimal output.

pls Read this post to help me

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Old 04-25-2003, 04:14 AM
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Thanks Flora,

I try it, but there are some dust in hair till now, I cant blur to rectify it, as i lost details..

ornaments are quite ok

I am now successfull to rectify the plasic look, I shall post this method if I have enough time to made a tutorial on it.

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Old 04-25-2003, 05:07 AM
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Saikat, try this article of mine for more on spotting.

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~binar...gspotting.html

The name is very suitable, as the subject matter is spots - and the correction should usually be applied that way...as in spot areas rather than globally.

Why affect the whole image when it is only the dust that is the problem? Try darken or lighten blend modes, darken for light spots on dark backgronds and lighten for dark spots on light backgrounds, blending the filtered layer into the original.

Very nice work on the colouring, the skintone could do with some cyan in it, at the moment the ratio of cyan to magenta/yellow is a bit too low (assuming sRGB as the RGB description for this image).

P.S. A few touch ups are also required on the retouching/extraction, where the background does not meet up with the people quite right around the hair and other edges where a halo effect is formed.

This correction has a lot of impact!


Hope this helps,

Stephen Marsh.

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