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Old 09-06-2001, 03:46 PM
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Question Colorization ???

Any suggestions on how to prevent a colorization from looking so *flat* or *dead*?...particularly the facial features.

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...164&p=53861184

I don't know why my pix won't 'stick' here, but this is the link at photopoint.
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Old 09-06-2001, 03:52 PM
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I don't know why you can't attach, either. It should work.

Try this for your face:
Make a new layer
Pick bright red, soft brush
Paint the cheeks, chin, tip of nose, ears (can't see from here if they're visible)...basically any high place on the face. It will look goofy, but don't worry.
Change layer blend mode to color
Crank down opacity to like 3-5%

It will take a few tries to get the hang of it. You can use other colors as well (I know nothing of cosmetology)
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Old 09-06-2001, 03:52 PM
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When you colored it did you use the normal mode for your brush?
If you use the color mode instead of normal, color is applied without covering up the details beneath, where as normal mode even at low opacity tends to cover those details up.
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Old 09-06-2001, 05:06 PM
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Smile WOW!

It's amazing what a difference it makes when something is done correctly! I tried the color mode first, but wasn't happy with the results. Perhaps I had inadvertently not selected the color mode.

anyway, here's the fix I came up with in just a few short minutes.....can't wait to get back to it and fix it properly, but I need to give the peepers a rest!

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...164&p=53863807

you think my pics won't upload here because I'm using a Mac?
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Old 09-06-2001, 05:07 PM
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Mac shouldn't have anything to do with it, unless they don't have the PC .jpg suffix

Good work!
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Old 09-06-2001, 05:28 PM
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Wow! What a difference! Great job!

And DJ, great call on what was wrong!

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Old 09-06-2001, 06:53 PM
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What a difference. Excellent job!

Jeanie,
It was my very first error in restoration and I never forgot it. I recoginzed the look.

Just want to add that the instructions Doug gave will produce the same results. The key being the color mode instead of normal. Whether it's in the brush options or layer options if you're painting on a seperate layer.
DJ

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Old 09-06-2001, 07:00 PM
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I found it interesting that Doug says he knows nothing of cosmetology. What's interesting to me is that when I colorized my grandparents' photo, I used my (albeit outdated) knowledge of how to apply makeup. (I rarely do that these days, so I'll have to look up the details again. ) But, I think that a quick perusal of a book on how to apply makeup would probably help with colorizations. I know that makeup is applied to enhance features (as well as hide imperfections), so it would probably be good to know.

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Old 09-06-2001, 07:12 PM
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The last chapters of Katrin Eismann's book suggest doing that also. I think it's a great suggestion.
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Old 09-06-2001, 09:57 PM
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The color mode is good and it looks somewhat natural on these old photos because it seems that's the way they might've looked in colour. There are a few blend modes that will do some interesting things with a person's face, especially a woman's face. Try normal, soft light and multiply. Normal mode at a very low opacity, followed by either soft light and or multiply. Cull colours from skin from an existing colour scan and use that as the base for the colorization. These blend modes work best on large, clean scans. I like to look at fashion mags for clues and look at the models, the pics are almost always touched up in photoshop or painter. It helps to have a grahics tablet too.
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