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Old 10-29-2003, 03:28 PM
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THanks for the color TUT. I will try his techniques.

Regarding Neat Image. Should I use that first, before I make other corrections and improvements or should I use it last, after all other tweaking is finished???

Going to try and include a smilie now.
Hmmm, Why didn't I get a yellow face????

Have a great day.
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Old 10-29-2003, 03:42 PM
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Here is a Challenge that is remarkably similar to what you have

http://www.retouchpro.com/gallery/sh...ry.php?cat=564
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Old 10-29-2003, 04:36 PM
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I hadn't seen that challenge,unbelievable.A real treasure
throve of information to be had.Some real wonderful
examples of restorations very similar to this project.
I will have to look at these techniques closely.I already
sighted some hints and techniques, I wanted to know about
with just a quick scan of the page.

Thanks Doug,

Joseph
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Old 11-10-2003, 06:09 AM
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Hi Joyce!

As I already mentioned in the "my Dad" Thread, here is the result I got working on your lovely picture.

Of the methods described in my Tutorial, I used 'The curves' only ...

For the general Enhancements I did the same as explained in "my Dad"

Please, don't hesitate to contact me if you'd like me to be more specific on something.

P.S. I removed what I took to be a tear in the backdrop at the near bottom left (my left) of the picture .... but maybe it was part of the landscape ....
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Old 11-16-2003, 06:53 PM
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Hi Flora,
My computer has been down for a week so I am just now getting back to you.
You gave the photo dimension which is what it lacked.
I made a stab at duplicating your technique as described in the tut and "My Dad" but ended up with a dark and worse looking photo.

Did you start by converting to grey???? Or proceed with the yellow.??? I really like the sepia in your final.

Guess I could use some details , if you still remember after this amount of time.

Thanks for taking the time to work on this photo. Joyce
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Old 11-19-2003, 02:57 AM
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Hi Joyce,

I'm attaching a snapshot of the layers I used to improve the dimension of your picture.
As you can see from the snapshot, the first step I took was running the image through Neat Image followed by several Adjustment Layers.
Here are the values of each Adjustment Layer:

1)Hue/saturation:
Blending: Normal
Opacity: 100%
Saturation: -43

2)Levels:
Blending: Normal
Opacity: 100%
Input Levels: 0 - 0.92 - 204
Output Levels: 19 - 255

3)Curves:
Blending: Normal
Opacity: 74%
Same diagram as in Tutorial

4)Curves1 (Duplication of previous Layer):
Blending: Screen
Opacity: 45%

5) Curves2 (Duplication of previous Layer):
Blending: Soft Light
Opacity: 70%

6)Levels:
Blending: Normal
Opacity: 77%
Input Levels: 36 - 0.91 - 188
Output Levels: 39 - 255

7) Sharpen:
I know that, usually, Sharpening should be the last step taken when restoring a picture, but I found that, sometimes, a slight 'midway sharpening' can be a big help. Here, I used the Custom Filter for the purpose.

8) Hue/saturation for the final Sepia Tone:
Tick the 'Colorize' Box
Blending: Normal
Opacity: 100%
Hue: 37
Saturation: 20

The result obtained after these procedures was the basis on which I,then, applied all the other steps for the final restoration.

As for your question, if the colours are 'bad', I start by converting to grey (usually using 'Channel Mixer'), otherwise I tend to work with the original 'as is'.

Hope this helped ... and, again, please, don't hesitate to contact me if you'd like me to be more specific on something...
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Old 11-19-2003, 06:49 PM
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Hi Flora

I'm trying to follow your work flow. In your first levels adjustment what am I looking at in your snapshot. Was some type of mask also applied.
I know you have only so much time for this forum but it would be really really helpful for a lot of us plebs if you could explain your reasoning behind each adjustment. In other words, why did you do what you did? As so aptly put in Buellers Day Off.."You're my hero!"

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Old 11-19-2003, 07:21 PM
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Hi Flora, Thanks so much for the detailed explanation. I would not have thought to use several curves, levels etc.
I'm going to spend some time with this so may have more questions. But appreciate all the time you have spent to show me how to do this. Joyce
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Old 11-20-2003, 01:36 AM
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Joyce, Duv,

Thanks so much for your kind words.

Duv

Quote:
Originally posted by Duv

In your first levels adjustment what am I looking at in your snapshot. Was some type of mask also applied....why did you do what you did?
What I wanted to achieve in this picture was to 'bring out' the soldier from the background ....
The original was quite dark and a bit 'flat' (lacking dimension) and, particularly in the darkest part of the image, the soldier seemed to fade into the background.

The first Levels Adjustment Layer gave the image more brightness and contrast but, in my opinion, it made the lightest parts of the background a bit too bright... that's why, with a fuzzy black brush (Opacity - 50%), I painted on the mask to bring back the original 'flatness' in parts of the background .... I did the same with the second Levels Adjustment Layer and with the Sharpen Layer ....

In other words, while trying to brighten up the whole picture, I wanted to leave the background as flat as possible to create an illusion of distance and make the soldier 'stand out' more ....
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Old 11-20-2003, 09:05 AM
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Thanks Flora! Your info really helps. It seems to me now in looking back at many of the old pics posted that "flatness" is not unusual. It's something I will spend more time considering in my efforts.

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