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Old 08-26-2004, 04:32 PM
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Angry Actions/Batches are Driving Me Insane

I make an action to open a pict file, crop it, "save to web" as low rez jpeg, named "26a.jpeg", save it, then close original file with no save. Stop making the action.

So I go to do a batch on a folder of picts all the same size and rez.

I tell the batch where the folder of originals exist.
I tell the batch to ignore open and save if necessary.
I tell the batch where in a separate folder to store the new jpeg file.
I tell the batch to ignore open and save if necessary.
I tell the batch the new file is only entitled a numeral plus the extension.

GO.

The batch starts, then always asks me about the first file, if I want to replace the original #26a.jpeg.
What the hell is happening? What am I doing wrong?
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Old 08-26-2004, 05:11 PM
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I make an action to open a pict file, crop it, "save to web" as low rez jpeg, named "26a.jpeg", save it, then close original file with no save. Stop making the action.

So I go to do a batch on a folder of picts all the same size and rez.

I tell the batch where the folder of originals exist.
I tell the batch to ignore open and save if necessary.
I tell the batch where in a separate folder to store the new jpeg file.
I tell the batch to ignore open and save if necessary.
I tell the batch the new file is only entitled a numeral plus the extension.

GO.

The batch starts, then always asks me about the first file, if I want to replace the original #26a.jpeg.
What the hell is happening? What am I doing wrong?
Welcome, John:

Sorry you had to make your first post based on a lot of frustration. For what it's worth, "Been there, done that" myself.

First of all you are not doing anything wrong, so do be hard on yourself. There are some not well known nuances of Save for Web and Batch that confound folks all the time.

re: What's happening?

When you recorded the specific file name in the SFW command (#26a.jpeg), and you then invoked the action in batch, PS assumed you wanted ALL files to have that name - hence the "Do you want to replace this file" message each time.

Unfortunately you have also "discovered" some unexplained results of applying an Export command in batch.
* As noted if you replace the file name in the File Name box of the SFW dialog, PS uses this name for all images it processes
* Destination folder (if different than the one recorded in the Export command) is ignored
* File Naming (if you choose that option) is ignored, too

In addition if files from the Source folder have embedded spaces in their names, Export will replace the spaces with dashes AND will truncate any file name longer than 27 characters to 27 characters.

Why is it this way? I dunno. Beats the heck out of me. It is what it is.

A flicker of hope:
Depending on your particular requirements, there may be a workaround for this.

See if this will work for you:
* Open a sample image you want to optimize
* Create a new action (name it and click Record)
* File > Save for Web
- Choose optimize settings
- Click Save
- DO NOT change file name
- Specify a destination folder
- Click OK (Export command is recorded)
* File > Close (save change? No)
STOP recording

File > Automate > Batch
* Play (action, set)
* Source/Folder/Choose
* Destination: None
* OK
...Batch should process images from Source and put them in the folder recorded in the Export command

Now, options for the file renames:
* If you have CS or PS7, you can invoke Batch rename via the File Browser
* You also have the option of creating an action "with no steps" that can be invoked via File > Automate > Batch where you can specify the folder where Export deposited the files as Source and a Destination where renamed files will be placed. Then you can use the File Naming options in the Batch dialog.

Note: To create an action that does nothing you create a new action (name it, click Record), then STOP. You get an action with "no steps." All you need is an action for Batch to work. The fact it has no steps makes no difference to Photoshop.

This is kind of clunky, but it might meet your needs.

Lemme know if any of this doesn't make sense unless it's, "Why the heck did Adobe do it this way?"

~Danny~

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Old 08-27-2004, 09:17 AM
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Thanks Danny

I have just read your post this morning, and have not had time to digest it, but I appreciate your quick response. If I run into any further difficulty I will be sure to ask.

I wish I could shake hands with people on the web who offer their time so generously. Appreciate it. jr
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Old 08-27-2004, 09:25 AM
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I have just read your post this morning, and have not had time to digest it, but I appreciate your quick response. If I run into any further difficulty I will be sure to ask.

I wish I could shake hands with people on the web who offer their time so generously. Appreciate it. jr
John:

I've been blessed to have been helped by many, many very kind people over the years. I'm glad (now) that I'm able to return the favor on occasion. Thanks for your kind words and virtual handshake. Both are greatly appreciated.

Keep me posted as you make progress.

~Danny~
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