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09-22-2004, 03:38 PM
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| | | Significant dirt on photo - ideas? Looking for some pointers here... I have this important family photo to restore that isn't generally in too bad shape -- some stains, splodges, minor tears, easy enough to handle -- but it has this ingrained dirt all over it (see attached sample). On the background I can use dust and scratches filter with no problem, but that won't work for the face.
My feeling is to try the Healing tool in Lighten mode, but I wondered if anyone else here has any tried-and-tested techniques for dealing with this kind of grime? | 
09-22-2004, 04:44 PM
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| | | Try selecting areas where grime is bad, copy and paste to a new layer, change blend layer to lighten, then move new layer by 1 or 2 pixels. This will get rid of grime in large areas with not too much detail, detail areas must be done by cloning/healing brush. Hope this helps. | 
09-22-2004, 04:52 PM
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| | | I have had a couple of jobs like that, after making the best copy I could, I gave them a good gentle washing with water and photoflo. A good deal of the dirt came off thereby making the retouching much easier.
Hope you have already tried this.
Mike | 
09-22-2004, 04:55 PM
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| | | Try using d/s, select all, define as pattern, restore original, healing brush set to pattern and check aligned. | 
09-22-2004, 06:54 PM
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| | | Hi Leah
I tried to treat it as noise. Ran it thru a program called Noiseware Community Edition. I think it's freeware. Other software would do the same. Not sure if this moves you forward.
Cheers
Dave | 
09-23-2004, 01:49 AM
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| | | Hi Leah!
make a mask (better than mine) of eyes lips nose
duplicate layer dust and scratches radius: 16- 25
treshold 0
blending option luminosity fill 60%
duplicate layer blur 6 pixel radius
blending option color fill 100%
some dust and scratches need on each channels
and stamp
Saby | 
09-23-2004, 05:05 AM
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| | Hi,
I run Polaroid Dust&Scratches Removal filter (can be downloaded free here) on Leah's picture twice, adjusting the settings.
Added a new empty Layer and used the Blur Tool (40-60% Stenght) on the remaining noisiest parts. (adjusted Opacity)
Run Neat Image on the individual Channels adjusting the settings for each Channel. | 
09-23-2004, 11:19 AM
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| | | Flora, any reason for using Polaroids D&S over Photoshop D&S?
Bob | 
09-23-2004, 12:02 PM
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| | Hi Bob,
the only reason I sometimes use the Polaroid D&S instead of Photoshop D&S is that the Polaroid Filter lets you target light and dark noise individually ....
Last edited by Flora; 09-23-2004 at 06:06 PM.
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09-23-2004, 06:13 PM
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| | Just tried another approach: - Duplicated the Background Layer.
- Working on the same duplicate I run Maximum and Minimum Filters.
- Still on the same Layer, I run Dust & Scratches.
- Used the Patch Tool to clear up.
- Run Neat Image.
- Run Levels on each Channel.
- Run Selective Color to improve the colour.
- Slightly blurred the image: Gaussian Blur Radius: 0.3 pixels.
- I used USM to lightly sharpen the image.
- Finally I added a little Noise.
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09-24-2004, 01:29 AM
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| | | Hi Flora!
Do U know about neat-image for Mac?
saby | 
09-24-2004, 01:41 AM
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| | Hi Saby,
I just had a look at the Neat Image site ... this is what they say: Quote: Q: Are you going to release a Mac OS9 or OSX version? A: A Mac OSX version of Neat Image is under development.
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09-24-2004, 02:48 PM
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| | | Tanx Flora
saby | 
09-24-2004, 04:17 PM
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| | Thank you all -- I am about to head off on holiday for a week but I shall be giving some of these a go as soon as I get back. Some of them I'd already tried and they give too soft a result for my personal taste, but there are some very promising avenues to explore... | 
09-24-2004, 06:38 PM
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| | Flora,
Neat Image have been saying that about a Mac version for a long time ... but nothing has ever appeared
Wendy |
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