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01-14-2005, 02:36 PM
|  | Junior Member | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Manchester, UK
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| | | Reflective jacket & flash problem I wonder if anyone can provide any ideas how to overcome the attached problem.
I posted the question on the Canon digital photography forum and was advised that the experts reside here.
My sister in law and her son went to lapland and as it was pretty much always dark all the photos required flash and the hi-vis (?) jacket reflected badly. I can kind of clone the band out but it doesnt look very natural, however the main problem is the 'bleeding' (?) of the yellow into the coat.
Any ideas how I can improve things. I've got photoshop but am going through a steep learning curve !!
Any responses would be gratefully received, even if it's a negative one.
Last edited by Colin the King; 01-14-2005 at 02:57 PM.
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01-15-2005, 06:11 AM
| | Junior Member | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: nr Swansea, South Wales, UK
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| | | Heres a really quick go (I'm working this afternoon) I just selected colour range for the reflective belt (cloning it out would be better, but I haven't time) then using any of the selection tools (I used lasso) pic the yellow haze area and image/ajustments/colour ballance and take out some of the yellow, do this a few times with different size areas and you should get a good result. I just tweeked the contrast a bit to finish (it's very rough, but you could do a much better job with a bit of time) Wayne | 
01-15-2005, 09:57 AM
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| | | There is something very cool about this photo.
Lots of yellow. Why, some of the yellow is so bright, it's almost green.
Those kinds of shifts in hue have an affect on lum.
In this case, makes things brighter.
Add an HSB adjustment layer.
Use the drop-down to select Yellow.
Bring the Hue slider down to around -35.
The yellows will become red, and the greens will become yellow.
Not only does this fix some hue problems, but also brings the lum down to a much better range.
Not sure if that will help much.
For the most part, I just wanted to point out that observation.
Last edited by Stroker; 01-15-2005 at 10:12 AM.
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01-15-2005, 01:03 PM
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| | | I had another go (had more time ) also cloned the strips. Wayne | 
01-16-2005, 07:03 AM
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| | Hi everybody,
Colin the King,
Welcome to RP! Quote: |
Originally Posted by Stroker .....Lots of yellow. Why, some of the yellow is so bright, it's almost green. | Yep!!! absolutely right there!!!!
I followed a different path with that :
I used selective Colors to remove the yellow/green cast and fade a bit of the glare
Used Curves and Levels to adjust/improve tone and contrast on the faded areas
I used empty Layers set to Color and Multiply to further correct discolorations and faded areas.
Neat Image (soft Settings) (can be downloaded free here to remove the noise.
Finally I lightly sharpened the image with USM. | 
01-16-2005, 01:58 PM
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| | | The reflective belt did cause quite the glare. I first played around with the burn tool, and levels, but there just wasn’t enough detail in the belt to recreate it. So, I search the web for an image of a reflective belt I could add to this photo.
1. Duplicate Image
2. Import reflective belt
3. Use the transform tool to distort the belt into the same shape
4. Used the clone tool and the healing brush to remove the old belt’s glare
5. Continued color correction with a Selective Color layer
6. Ran image through Neat Image to smooth
7. Applied a slight USM
~T
Last edited by T Paul; 01-16-2005 at 02:30 PM.
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01-16-2005, 02:48 PM
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| | | Thanks everyone for your respsonses. I'm embarrassed by my lack of knowledge, however I'm learning fast thanks to you people...
A couple of questions if you don't mind:
Swanseamale47 : how did you clone (?) the coat over the band ??
Flora : Thanks, I've now got to this position.
TPaul. Where did you import the belt from. I like the results you've got.
I'm struggling working with layers at the mo' but with the info you've all provided I'm sure I'll get there.
Once again, thanks for all your assistance. | 
01-16-2005, 03:04 PM
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| | I did a Google Image search for "reflective belt"
This is the image I used: Reflective Belt Image
P.S. No need to be embarrassed about asking questions. That's exactly what this web site is about...sharing and learning! | 
01-17-2005, 11:02 AM
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| | I used the clone tool in PS, with a small size brush, then selecting the red coat I painted the belt out, then used the healing brush to smooth it a bit, then back to the clone tool and with a sharp edge brush I selected the thin white strips and cloned them across the coat to look like nothing was removed (I hope) Wayne Quote: |
Originally Posted by Colin the King Thanks everyone for your respsonses. I'm embarrassed by my lack of knowledge, however I'm learning fast thanks to you people...
A couple of questions if you don't mind:
Swanseamale47 : how did you clone (?) the coat over the band ??
Flora : Thanks, I've now got to this position.
TPaul. Where did you import the belt from. I like the results you've got.
I'm struggling working with layers at the mo' but with the info you've all provided I'm sure I'll get there.
Once again, thanks for all your assistance. | | 
01-18-2005, 03:05 PM
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| | | Thanks very much everyone for your assistance. I've attached my final effort. It's been a journey of discovery which would have been impossible without all your guidance.
I'm sure my nephew will be delighted. | 
01-19-2005, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Colin the King Thanks very much everyone for your assistance. I've attached my final effort. It's been a journey of discovery which would have been impossible without all your guidance.
I'm sure my nephew will be delighted. | Great Job!!!  .... and thank you very much for a great feedback! | 
01-19-2005, 10:08 AM
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| | Nicely done Colin The King! Now that's how RetouchPro is suppose to work.
1. User needs help and posts photo for suggestions
2. Members provide guidance
3. User tries suggestions and posts final results
EXCELLENT! Great job to everyone!! |
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