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Old 03-03-2005, 04:59 PM
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White-out conditions

Hello everyone,

I am having a heck of a time with this picture. I can't seem to do anything with the man on the right without getting too much contrast or making it too dark. I'm using Photoshop 7. The quality of the picture was terrible to start with and this problem isn't making it any easier to restore. Is there something I can do with channels or does the picture need to have color information?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Don
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Old 03-03-2005, 06:15 PM
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Hi Don, haven't had a go yet with your picture, but from 1st impressions I'd say there's little you can do to improve the blown out whites. From their very nature they are difficult to deal with, as they contain no real pixel data, they are in effect just pure white. Darkening the pixels will just make them grey, it will not restore picture info that is'nt there. Best bet is to paste on detail from another picture if you have one.
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Old 03-03-2005, 07:00 PM
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I wonder if...

I wonder if you could get a picture of this chap in a shirt that is clearer then add it to the original, or find a picture like this one on the net and super impose the shirt over your picture, as i think the whiteness is too much, just my opinion as i am learning here.

I have a filter program called filter unlimited 2.0 if it was possible i would add it in the forum, but i have no idea how to or how big the program is.

Just adding this picture to show you what the filter can do, having to resize it to fit the forum as made the couple alittle bit wider...Sorry!
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Old 03-03-2005, 08:15 PM
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Thank you Gary and Legacy~Art for your quick responses.

I am not surprised that there's not much I can do with the picture. You both suggested pasting in from another photo and I had not thought of that. I'll give that a try. He is a relative of mine so, maybe I can come up with another picture of him to work with. I also downloaded the demo version of filters unlimited so, I can give that a try too.

Thank you again for your help. I'll post the results if anything works.
Take care
Don
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Old 03-03-2005, 08:16 PM
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We look forward to seeing your final result!
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Old 03-03-2005, 08:46 PM
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I look forward to see what you come up with as well as I don't think t my solution was too hot.

I duplicated the background layer.
inverted the image.
adjusted levels to increase the contrast.
I then selected the white (inverted from black) with magic wand and selected similar.
I deleted the white.
Made a layer mask out of this inverted layer.
Used a brush set at very light opacity to paint out some of the white.
I was able to add a little texture to the shirt this way as well.

Wasn't the greatest but someone with a little more patience than me could probably do a better job.

Of course if you can find that other photo and...
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Old 03-03-2005, 08:48 PM
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hmmm, it looked better before I uploaded it
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Old 03-03-2005, 09:00 PM
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Hey don't beat yourself up that is a really good attempt, well i just had a thought, if all else fails take all the attempts and super-impose them ontop of each other and change the opacity etc, might work for you, good luck!
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Old 03-04-2005, 05:20 AM
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Thanks for your efforts and ideas cardmnal, That's quite an improvement. I'm going to take a crack at it again this weekend when I have more time. I will try to find another picture to borrow from.
Again, I appreciate everyone's help and suggestions with this.
Thanks
Don
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Old 03-04-2005, 07:12 AM
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Hi everybody,

Don,

don't have anything to add to what Gary said ... if there are no details, no matter what you do, you'll just darken the whites to greys .... I suggest the same as Legacy~ 'borrow' the shirt (and arms' details) from another picture ....

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.....without getting too much contrast or making it too dark
Increasing contrast is one of the last things I'd do for this image even if faded .... Too strong a contrast is, in my opinion, the main problem of this picture (I'm talking about when it was actually taken....) ... What should be done is balancing lights (when possible) and shadows trying to retain as many details as possible ....

In my attachment, I've worked on the shadow only using the Curves to balance them ....

cardmnal,

You really did the best that could be done !!!
Without 'borrowing' parts from another picture I really don't think anyone would get different/better results than yours!!!
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