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sRGB and Soft Proof for Monitor

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Old 06-20-2005, 11:35 AM
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DOH!

I'm going to kick myself... but this is still incredibly stupid IMO.

I went to Display Properties, then Advanced, and Color Management.
Then removed the profile from that window. So there's no profiles at all there now.

Double checked with OptiCAL that we still have a working calibration (and even after a reboot).
Now in PS the sRGB matches the web view. Exactly.

So, if you want Color Management, make sure the display properties Color Management isn't setup with a profile!!

Double checked with the desktop machine, and this was its setting all along.
Now if anyone can find a good explanation of why Windows color management isn't, I'd love to see it

Matt
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Old 06-20-2005, 12:00 PM
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CM is definitely an achilles heel for Windows. Just be glad you weren't trying to get two monitors to match. The specialist at Gretag even told me it was impossible under Windows, but I did it (after disabling all the auto-junk my vidcard installed).

It appears OptiCAL is using it's own method of loading profiles, rather than controlling Windows' method (as my i1 does).

Glad you finally got it sorted out.
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Old 06-21-2005, 03:30 AM
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Doug - thanks! Sounds like you had a nightmare too

The odd thing is that OptiCAL was placing the profile in the monitor properties for me. It looks like the video driver was applying the profile as well as Photoshop. It's totally bizarre, but at least I know what's going on now!!

Thanks for your input & help

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Old 05-28-2006, 03:22 AM
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Unhappy Maybe my problem

I two use a hardware profiler, and I get the message that the profile was loaded into the graphics card at boot up, however if I click on the Nvidia icon (bottom right hand side and click colour correction, the profile says standard mode. If I then import the profile created by my calibrator, the screen looks very washed out, this also happens if I load Adobe RGB profile. Does this mean that my vidie card is stoping my calibrated profile from been used. If so how do I stop the
graphics card from loading it's own profile.
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Old 03-07-2007, 07:50 AM
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Re: sRGB and Soft Proof for Monitor

I just stumbled upon this thread and have the same problem. However, if I take all profiles out of my Display Colour Management tab as suggested above, I guess I am effectively running uncolour managed , which works in the same way as the suggestion to prepare all work for the web while set to no colour management.

But is this really the solution to get predictable colours on the web with PS Elements and PC and an LCD monitor?

And what happens when you need to print something? No colour management???
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Old 03-07-2007, 07:58 AM
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Re: sRGB and Soft Proof for Monitor

You might want to start a new thread for this, it sounds like you're having a different problem.
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Old 03-07-2007, 09:57 AM
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Re: sRGB and Soft Proof for Monitor

Thanks to all...it's certainly a confusing problem.

After searching on all forums I could think of I found an old thread discussion the same problem...

http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/inp...ht=web+colours

On this thread Racc's solution was to work with Colour Management turned off when preparing any work for the web... I had stumbled across this possible approach too.

While MattMatic's eventual solution was to strip all the profiles from his Display Colour Management Settings...which sounds like doing the same thing and making your display non colour managed (like a web browser)...but not sure what it would do for one's printing.

So the question is are these really the best solutions...it sounds like it may be more of a problem with LCD screens, but any further suggestions would be very welcome.

Many thanks again for all help already offered,

Cheers,

Paul
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Old 03-08-2007, 04:57 AM
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Re: sRGB and Soft Proof for Monitor

To anyone who gets this far I recommend reading this thread...very educational....particularly Rishi's responses to my questions.

http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/w...E4Le@.3bc35205



Cheers,


Paul
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Old 05-10-2007, 04:58 PM
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Re: sRGB and Soft Proof for Monitor

You have to get the color management to work for any consistent results.
Not running it to mimick the Internet viewing conditions is the WRONG way to see the results.
With a properly calibrated monitor (Gamm 2.2/6500k/Lum 120) you can keep your system optimized for any condition and soft proof in PS for any environment. But it all starts with a properly calibrated monitor WITH color management working.
Not quite sure about getting the PC environment to work right but I hear Eye-One Match will get it in there right on a PC.
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