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Color Calibrating Laptop Monitors?

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Old 07-15-2008, 01:21 PM
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Color Calibrating Laptop Monitors?

Greetings,
I just purchased a new HP Pavillion laptop with Vista, got it home, and hate the monitor display! Compared to my desktop monitor, the laptop monitor display is very blue and muddy.

I'm a VERY novice digital photographer and Photoshopper, still using Photoshop 7.01. But, the terrible display of my color photos is really bugging me.

I looked through the color management info. in the Windows help menu and on other forums, but it's way over my head.

Can anyone direct me to good, beginner level info. on how to warm up the color temperature etc? Or is it impossible.

Also, I can't afford calibration software right now...but free downloads would be good.

Thanks!
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:00 PM
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Re: Color Calibrating Laptop Monitors?

unless you have a hardware calibrator you'll have to use a site like this one:

http://photographerusa.com/screencheck/index.html
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Old 07-15-2008, 03:28 PM
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Re: Color Calibrating Laptop Monitors?

Thank you!
By hardware, do you mean a device like Pantone Huey or Spyder Express?
I've been researching some more since my first post, and think I may have to break down and purchase one of these...

I've read a bunch of reviews comparing them, but they seem about 50/50.

Anyone have a preference?

Also, it looks like Huey won't calibrate printers too, but I can't tell if Spyder will...Printer calibration would be good, of course.
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Old 07-15-2008, 03:46 PM
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Re: Color Calibrating Laptop Monitors?

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Thank you!
By hardware, do you mean a device like Pantone Huey or Spyder Express?
I've been researching some more since my first post, and think I may have to break down and purchase one of these...

I've read a bunch of reviews comparing them, but they seem about 50/50.

Anyone have a preference?

Also, it looks like Huey won't calibrate printers too, but I can't tell if Spyder will...Printer calibration would be good, of course.
I have the Spyder2 Express at work and home.

The PrintFIX utility included in the Spyder2 Pro Suite (not Express) is nice but it takes a while to calibrate (print test sheet, lookup your printer/paper combo).

Essentially you could get the similar results without the PrintFIX Plus by printing a macbeth color chart and tweaking the settings until the color match. This is essentially what you do with the PrinFIX utility since it does not seem to find the paper/printer combo most of the time.

I'd get the Spyder2Express and save some $$ because I don't think the PrintFIX utility is worth it.
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:10 PM
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Re: Color Calibrating Laptop Monitors?

the Eye-One Display 2 is a good monitor calibrator..unless you use a wide assortment of papers on your printer you're better off just buying a profile or using the profiles that from the manufacturer...
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:21 PM
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Re: Color Calibrating Laptop Monitors?

Thanks again for your replies.

Having compared the price of Eye One Display and Spyder Express, I see the latter is less than half the price.

Since I'm a poor amateur, would the Spyder Express suffice re. getting rid of severe blue cast and poor contrast?
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Old 07-15-2008, 05:45 PM
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Thanks again for your replies.

Having compared the price of Eye One Display and Spyder Express, I see the latter is less than half the price.

Since I'm a poor amateur, would the Spyder Express suffice re. getting rid of severe blue cast and poor contrast?
It will definitely take care of that.

I've sent a test sheet I have that contains a macbeth chart and without having them do color correction it came out exactly like what I saw on the screen.

This was at MPIX which is one the best know photo labs.

As matter a fact when you calibrate the system with the Spyder at the end it has a pic and it will show the before and after. When I did min you could really tell that it remove this orange cast the test pic had.

I don't see any reason to spend more $$
Most likley the only thing going up the $$ ladder will get you is ambient light support (not really convinced of it's benefits) and dual monitor support.
I can tell you that those 2 options never really made an impact on me and I've loved the Spyder ever since I got it.
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:37 PM
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Re: Color Calibrating Laptop Monitors?

Also, be sure you fully understand the features/settings of your graphics card. Not in order to change them, but to know not to change them... if that makes sense. Many beginners calibrate, then become enthused about all the card options. Look at them now, before you calibrate. You really should not change them after calibrating.

What you are calibrating is actually the graphics card, not the display. All calibrations eventually modify the look up table (LUT) that is used to translate colors from the CMS to the display via the display's profile.

Today's graphic cards have many options (too many). Most are fine at their defaults. But, due to large variations in laptop display manufacturing processes, default settings do not work with all displays. This is why a calibration tool like the Spyder is important. Once calibrated, do not mess with your graphic card settings. This will blow your calibration.
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:22 AM
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Re: Color Calibrating Laptop Monitors?

Fine advice by TommyQ and I think the number one thing you need to take care of is to make sure that you don't have a 2nd color calibrator program starting up.

Typically Adobe Gamma is installed on most PCs with PS and on some of them it runs on startup.

You want to delete it from the startup folder.

This procedure is mentioned in the Spyder manual.
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Old 09-04-2008, 09:24 PM
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Re: Color Calibrating Laptop Monitors?

I suggest you just use external monitor for color correction, a laptop monitor can never be used for serious color work for view conditions, viewing angles changing all the time.
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