Lightroom - Photoshop saturation difference

[blom]

Hi all.

Got some issues when exporting from Lightroom to Photoshop. I get a big difference in Saturation. I guess its a profile thing but I´m using the same profile that Lightroom sends the photo with (Prophoto RGB), still it looks like this. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance. / Daniel

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[Cupcake]

Is your color setting in Photoshop synchronized?
I have LightRoom on Pro also, and PhotoShop on sRGBIEC61966-2.1.

[blom]

My RGB working space in Photoshop is Adobe RGB, but when I send the picture from Lightroom I make it run on the one set on the photo (ProPhoto RGB).

sRGB is such a small space, so would not want to use that right?

[Cupcake]

I use sRGBIEC61966-2.1 for the internet, because the Pro looks dull.
Is the one on the right Lightroom, that one is dull.
The picture says your color profile is LCD.
It prints wonderful in LightRoom, better then photoshop.
I print all the time in Lightroom.

[blom]

I just did a screen grab of the shot in Lightroom and exported to Photoshop to show the difference I get in saturation, thats why it says LCD profile. The photoshop one is the one to the right.

I dont do my own prints (I send the files to clients) and need to do more adjustments than Lightroom can offer, hence why I want to edit in PS. I still have not been able to figure this out.

Cheers / D

[Cupcake]

Are you looking at the right Proof colors in Photoshop?
Go to View,
Proof Settings: click, Custom and pick ProPhoto RGB from the drop down menu.
then use relative colorimetric,
black point compensation
Click OK
Both pictures in Lightroom and Photoshop will look the same.

In photoshop in color setting
pick ProPhoto RGB

I hope this works ,
it does on my computer.

[blom]

I checked and I already have those settings.. Not sure what´s up.

Thanks though..

[Cupcake]

It works on my computer.
Very strange!
Try to go to the Lightroom forum and ask.

Oh, when you save, and it goes back to Lightroom, does it look perfect again?

[Andrew Lawrence]

Are you sure you're "exporting" from lightroom? Or do you just mean you are opening up the file in photoshop after you make adjustments in lightroom? If you are actually exporting the file through lightroom into photoshop, then this saturation difference shouldn't be happening...

But if you're just opening up the file through photoshop, it doesn't matter what lightroom camera raw settings you have on the same file.... it'll open up in ACR in a default way, unless you "save" the changes to the file in lightroom before you open it separately in photoshop. Does that make sense?

[blom]

Hi Andrew

I´m just right clicking and Edit in/Edit in Photoshop. Unless I´ve done that to the file before it wont let me choose if I should go with the changes that where made to the file. I´ve been checking around and figured out that it has something to do with photoshop/lightroom not color managing when used on a 2nd display (I have my Mackbook pro hooked up to a Eizo). Because it works fine when I´m not using that screen and just keep LR/PS on my laptop. Have not found any solution to this though..

[Andrew Lawrence]

Originally Posted by blom

Hi Andrew

I´m just right clicking and Edit in/Edit in Photoshop. Unless I´ve done that to the file before it wont let me choose if I should go with the changes that where made to the file. I´ve been checking around and figured out that it has something to do with photoshop/lightroom not color managing when used on a 2nd display (I have my Mackbook pro hooked up to a Eizo). Because it works fine when I´m not using that screen and just keep LR/PS on my laptop. Have not found any solution to this though..

I'd like to see a link to your research if you have it on hand so I could take a look at myself. I've not used lightroom with two monitors yet. So let me get this right though: Do you see the image in lightroom (on your Eizo) and then you export it to PS and it looks different (on your Eizo.) Or do you see the Lightroom adjustments in lightroom (on your macbook) and then export it to PS (viewed on your Eizo)? Cause if your viewing on one monitor and moving do another, then you need to make sure both of them are color calibrated and even then they will probably look different. But if both of the imaged you see are on your Eizo, then you do have an issue. Make sure your lightroom and PS color settings are matching.

If you could, do you have screen shots? Could you describe the issue in extreme detail?

[blom]

Sure, I´ve got my lightroom window up on the Eizo (witch is set as the main monitor), I press edit/edit with PS and open up the photo in PS, still on the Eizo. I noticed however that if I keep lightroom on my MBP, and open up the image in PS on the Eizo, they look way more similar. So I´m thinking that its something with Lightroom not really getting the color profile of the Eizo. I also noticed that the colors in Lightroom on the Eizo seems a bit blown out in the reds.
Here is a screen shot of a part of an image (shitty one, but still), Lightroom shot on the left, PS on the right. (Both on the Eizo). http://www.danielblom.com/client/test.jpg
I did come across a recommendation on the Eizo page to turn of OpenGL in PS, but that would not help.
I might just have to get a Mac Pro

My settings are matching in both LR and PS.

[blom]

Another post on similar issues: http://discussions.apple.com/thread....ageID=10230269

[Andrew Lawrence]

Originally Posted by blom

Sure, I´ve got my lightroom window up on the Eizo (witch is set as the main monitor), I press edit/edit with PS and open up the photo in PS, still on the Eizo. I noticed however that if I keep lightroom on my MBP, and open up the image in PS on the Eizo, they look way more similar. So I´m thinking that its something with Lightroom not really getting the color profile of the Eizo. I also noticed that the colors in Lightroom on the Eizo seems a bit blown out in the reds.
Here is a screen shot of a part of an image (shitty one, but still), Lightroom shot on the left, PS on the right. (Both on the Eizo). http://www.danielblom.com/client/test.jpg
I did come across a recommendation on the Eizo page to turn of OpenGL in PS, but that would not help.
I might just have to get a Mac Pro

My settings are matching in both LR and PS.

Ok from what I can tell, Lightroom might be having issues with getting confused with dual monitors that have different profiles.

Try this: create a custom profile so your Eizo is color calibrated properly, then copy and use that same eizo.icc profile for your macbook's monitor profile as well. Now your color on your mac will be off because you're using the eizo profile for both monitors so you'll have to do all of your color stuff on the eizo when you're using dual monitors. After both monitors have the same eizo.icc profile, try again and see if the color switches or if it stays the same....... let me know if this works for you?

[blom]

Hi Andrew.

I tried this before but did not restart the computer that time, this time I did and now it works. The MBP looks like crap though, but I guess you cant have it all.. Hope Apple / Adobe is aware of this issue. Thanks for your help Andrew.

Have a good one /D

[Andrew Lawrence]

Originally Posted by blom

Hi Andrew.

I tried this before but did not restart the computer that time, this time I did and now it works. The MBP looks like crap though, but I guess you cant have it all.. Hope Apple / Adobe is aware of this issue. Thanks for your help Andrew.

Have a good one /D

Glad to hear it's working..... better. Yeah I'd try to see if you can contact Adobe and let them know about this issue (or see if they are already aware of it and working out a solution for the next update)

You might want to try updating to lightroom 2.5 if you haven't, it might have a fix in it for this problem (although I don't see it under the list of problems solved from earlier versions.) Good luck.