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Old 07-24-2013, 09:49 AM
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Sharpening Workflow with RAWs

Hi guys !

I'm interested to know what is your workflow while working with RAWs and especially how you use sharpening.

For my own case, I don't sharpen my raw, I just convert it to PSD, open it with Photoshop, work on it and sharpen at the final step.

Don't know if it's the good way, so tell me what you think

Thanks in advance and have a nice day.

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Old 07-24-2013, 10:51 AM
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Re: Sharpening Workflow with RAWs

If your workflow is PS then I think that a three stage sharpening process is likely to give the best result i.e. Capture sharpening and Creative sharpening in raw then final output sharpening in PS for output device. You should be able to carry out all these stages in Lightroom as well.

You could do a lot worse than read up on techniques proposed by the late Bruce Fraser who's work has carried on by Jeff Schewe and others.

http://www.pixelgenius.com/tips/schewe-sharpening.pdf
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tut...sharpening.htm
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Old 07-24-2013, 02:53 PM
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Re: Sharpening Workflow with RAWs

Lightroom uses the Fraser sharpening workflow (Capture and output, no real Creative Sharpening) and of course does this on raw data in a totally non destructive fashion.

Http://www.creativepro.com/article/o...ere-afraid-ask
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:05 PM
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Re: Sharpening Workflow with RAWs

Thanks guys !

I'll check your links and reply ASAP !!!
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:07 PM
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Re: Sharpening Workflow with RAWs

Andrew, I was thinking Creative sharpening in Lightroom and ACR being done using adjustment brush or graduated filter. Perhaps not as flexible or even as accurate as doing the same in PS so your comment surprised me. What have I missed?
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Re: Sharpening Workflow with RAWs

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Andrew, I was thinking Creative sharpening in Lightroom and ACR being done using adjustment brush or graduated filter.
Kind of but not to the degree of options as found in PK Sharpener (Creative Sharpening options).
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Old 07-25-2013, 01:05 PM
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Re: Sharpening Workflow with RAWs

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Kind of but not to the degree of options as found in PK Sharpener (Creative Sharpening options).
Thanks.

I have never looked at PK sharpener as I believed that it was pretty much incorporated into raw and perhaps the need for a seperate or plugin app for up to date versions of PS and LR may not offer any benefit.

I think I need to rethink this and at least have a look what it brings to the table
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Old 07-25-2013, 01:14 PM
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Re: Sharpening Workflow with RAWs

PKS II is an automate plug-in for Photoshop based on Bruce's work (he was the original product manager). It doesn't do anything in a raw workflow. It deals with rendered images within Photoshop. Adobe licensed some of the technology back in LR2 days if memory serves. It doesn't really have creative sharpening, at least by the PKS II standards and output sharpening is limited to screen and ink jet. PKS II has other output devices optimized (Press, Contone etc).
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Old 07-30-2013, 03:41 AM
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Re: Sharpening Workflow with RAWs

@Tony W : nice articles, both of them
@andrewrodney, the link doesn't work :'(

I still have a question about pre sharpening (i.e. capture sharpening). Doesn't it make details pop too much ? If so, doesn't it create an overload of work in a portrait retouching context, especially on skin details that needs to be fixed ?

By the way, I'll experiment that as soon as possible.

Thanks for your answers !
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:39 AM
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Re: Sharpening Workflow with RAWs

Capture sharpening is needed to address blurring caused by the cameras anti aliasing filter and the demosaicing process etc. The aim is to bring back sharpness that is naturally lost here so that the image will respond well to subsequent sharpening i.e. creative and output.

Andrews link is working for me
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