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Old 06-06-2008, 02:58 AM
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Ask for permission & photographer demands hi-res?

Hey!

I am putting the finishing touches on a nice retouch.

I am going to ask the photographer for permission to use the image in my portfolio. I have a feeling she is going to ask for the high-res version, because she did with another person on a forum.

If someone demands the high-res version of the image in exchange for permission to use the image in your portfolio, is your only option to give them the high-res version for free?

Maybe this is coming across selfish, but I spent a lot of time on the image and it feels like it would be giving away a $200~ "freebie." lol


I guess that is just a part of portfolio building, huh?

I just wanted to get some other perspectives before I ask the photographer for permission.
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Old 06-06-2008, 03:47 AM
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I guess that is just a part of portfolio building, huh?
Yup, I'm afraid so!
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Old 06-06-2008, 07:07 AM
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Re: Ask for permission & photographer demands hi-r

If anything the photographer is doing you a favor, the polite and nice thing to do would be to give him/her your edited version. Its a trade off.
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Old 06-06-2008, 12:14 PM
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Yah, you're both right. lol
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:10 AM
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Re: Ask for permission & photographer demands hi-r

I was also thinking that if the photographer really wants a full version of your edited photo of his. Then he likes your work, you never know you may end up getting a new client. Not a bad trade off for one photo you get to use on your portfolio, and even a new client for life.
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Old 06-07-2008, 01:57 PM
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I was also thinking that if the photographer really wants a full version of your edited photo of his. Then he likes your work, you never know you may end up getting a new client. Not a bad trade off for one photo you get to use on your portfolio, and even a new client for life.
That's true! The thought crossed my mind.

Thanks for your advice.
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Old 06-19-2008, 10:23 AM
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Re: Ask for permission & photographer demands hi-r

you need to establish time-for-print rules from the beginning.
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Old 06-19-2008, 12:16 PM
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you need to establish time-for-print rules from the beginning.
As in, I retouch the image, and they mail me a quality print-out of it? Is that a standard request?
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Old 06-19-2008, 12:21 PM
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Re: Ask for permission & photographer demands hi-r

uh, yes, kinda... well yeh.

here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_for_print

as a retoucher only, it is a little different. but say you did a photoshoot and then the model wants some pictures, you'll likely have hundreds of pictures to go through but you'll need to edit any of them. so thats when the retouching comes in, you'll make sure to edit only a few without the model thinking that you are going to edit 100 pictures overnight, and then it goes from there to your already established time for print rules

does that help?
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As in, I retouch the image, and they mail me a quality print-out of it? Is that a standard request?
What he means is TFP or these days TFP/CD (i.e trade for services).

Naturally most of the time when you hear TFP it means photog+model for a shoot.

TFP is a barter system really which could in theory work for any kind of craft.

In the photography sense Trade For Prints (as it most commonly know) means that the photog and model will provide the services free to each other.
In exchange both the photog and model can use the pictures in their respective portfolios.

In your case substitute retoucher for model.
So photog provides photo.
Retoucher brings the skill and edits the photo.
Bot you and photog can use the pic in your portfolios.

I'm photo and I will tell you that you need to look at everything being fair.
If the photog gave you a not so great pic (talking composition, etc. here) then it is up to you if you want to work with the photo.

I'm sure as a retoucher you would welcome a "messed up pic" but at the same time make sure it is the right kind of messed up.

When I want to try some new look, lighting setup and do a TFP shoot I always try to be selective when deciding which model to call back.

I would also create a TFP agreement tailored to your services.
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