Omfg

[Godmother]

http://www.modelmayhem.com/pics.php?id=1134537

How can someone do such a thing!!!!

She doesn't only uses my pictures but also MAC and DIOR - I know those images and who's done them!!!!

Many are from this same FORUM

OMG OMG OMG

How can we stop this? I HATE MM and i don't have an account there because I think it's a very amateur site and most mods are jerks. But I think I should create one, just to let them know about this!!!!

Wonder how many of my images are out there?????

HELP!

x

[Sweetlight]

Hello lovely God Mother. First thing I would do is contact the deepest pockets of the 3. Dior is big but I think Steve Jobs has the heavier wallet. Contact Apple central and ask to speak to their legal department. They will quiz you as they will think you want to sue them. Give them enough to send you through to legal. Give them the web address and they will probably ask to see your orignials as well. Contacting Dior would be not so easy but if MAC corporate gets wind of it, they will surely contact Dior. You need to gather your originals and look in Photoshop to collect EXIF info and also any documentation you may have. I have addressed this issue before and was scolded by some guy who thought he knew better so I let him ramble, blah, blah, blah,blah. This mother is as blatand as it comes and for profit so it add's more mitigating circumstance. Sorry, third edit already. I think first you need to contact the photographers so they can come on board with you and also make sure none of them gave any consent of all, which I am sure they did not. This is about as blatant as it gets.

c - Now YOU have to Let me be your Facebook friend..
c

I love it when you use that dirty mouth too, by the way!
Wait, that sounded terrible. How 'bout I love it when you cuss like a sailor
c

[Godmother]

Originally Posted by Sweetlight

I love it when you use that dirty mouth too, by the way!
Wait, that sounded terrible. How 'bout I love it when you cuss like a sailor
c

Lol... Might be the Latina in me

HOW CAN SHE DO THAT???? Model Mayhem SUCKS!

[Sweetlight]

Hey, I love the Latina in you Years of dating a lovely Puerto Rican woman has taught me to respect that hot blood

[zganie]

I think you should Contact the site and let them Know someone is using your images

[Godmother]

Originally Posted by zganie

I think you should Contact the site and let them Know someone is using your images

I have created an account, fagged every one of her pictures and wrote this to the adm:


Jul 20 09 10:19 am
How can u allow this??
http://www.modelmayhem.com/pics.php?id=1134537

Lou Denim - the photographer she mentions notified me about this account.

This so called retoucher is using COPYRIGHTED material - most from ME and Lou Denim and some from other TOP retouchers around the world

Feel free to check my folio, or Deviant account or flyckr account or just plain google Natalia Taffarel

If this account is not taken down immediately I WILL take legal actions! and so will MAC and Lou Denim and everyone who's pictures have been STOLEN by this person.

A SHAME about the security on this site!

[Markzebra]

Yes that's a hard one to learn. That's why you honestly got to be careful whether you post stuff at all. I have had three occasions when I have seen work samples from other retouchers that I knew I did at least 90% of the work on.

When it comes to work you put on the web - Natalia - this is yet another reason why you should keep PSD's. Then at least you know if you get the chance to prove to a client you did it, you can.

[Godmother]

Originally Posted by Markzebra

Yes that's a hard one to learn. That's why you honestly got to be careful whether you post stuff at all. I have had three occasions when I have seen work samples from other retouchers that I knew I did at least 90% of the work on. Happened recently when I had done some visualising and retouching for Sky Sports last year. I discovered one of the retouchers who had worked only on one of the 'offshoots', had put it as a before and after on their PDF, except the 'before' wasn't really THEIR 'before'

When it comes to work you put on the web - Natalia - this is yet another reason why you should keep PSD's. Then at least you know if you get the chance to prove to a client you did it, you can.

I can probe it easy - I posted it first YEARS before her

And I don't need prof for clients. My clients are my friends.
I work based on trust every time and if I don't lie u I can't work for u.

I know it's a lil bit weird but it's the way it is

[anchorbuildings]

I recognise one of the images from the Lynda.com tutorials:

This one:
http://modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pid=12138220

the photographer's website is rburman.com

I have emailed the photographer to let him know someone is infringing on his copyright. xh

[Godmother]

OMG

This is what they answered me!


Pursuant to 17 U.S.C. Section 512 as amended by Title II of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (the "Act"), we reserve the right, but not the obligation, to terminate your license to use the Site if we determine in its sole and absolute discretion that you are involved in infringing activity, including allege acts of first-time or repeat infringement, regardless of whether the material or activity is ultimately determined to be infringing. We accommodate and do not interfere with standard technical measures used by copyright owners to protect their materials. In addition, pursuant to 17 U.S.C. Section 512 (c), we have implemented procedures for receiving written notification of claimed infringements and for processing such claims in accordance with the Act. All claims of infringement must be submitted in a written complaint that complies with the requirements below and delivered to our designated agent to receive notification of claimed infringement by mail:

The Legal Department
909 N. Sepulveda Blvd., 11th Floor
El Segundo, California 90245
Tel: 888 879 0239
legal@internetbrands.com

In addition, any written notice regarding any defamatory or infringing activity, whether of a copyright, patent, trademark or other proprietary right must include the following information:

A. A physical or electronic signature of a person authorized to act on behalf of (1) the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed or (2) the person defamed.

B. Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed, or, if multiple copyrighted works at a single online site are covered by a single notification, a representative list of such works at that site. Similarly, for materials that are defamatory or infringe patent, trademark, or other proprietary rights of a third party, please submit a list of such materials.

C. Identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing, to be the subject of infringing activity, or that is claimed to be defamatory and that is to be removed or access to which is to be disabled, and information reasonably sufficient to permit us to locate the material.

D. Information reasonably sufficient to permit us to contact you, such as your address, telephone number, and/ or e-mail address.

E. A statement that you have a good faith belief that use of the material, in the manner complained, of is not authorized by the copyright or other proprietary right owner, its agent, or the law.

F. A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that you are authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed or on behalf of the person defamed.

[anchorbuildings]

and the retoucher for the same shot was Chris Orwig who works for Lynda... I've contacted him too...

[anchorbuildings]

Originally Posted by Godmother

OMG

This is what they answered me!


Pursuant to 17 U.S.C. Section 512 as amended by Title II of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (the "Act"), we reserve the right, but not the obligation, to terminate your license to use the Site if we determine in its sole and absolute discretion that you are involved in infringing activity, including allege acts of first-time or repeat infringement, regardless of whether the material or activity is ultimately determined to be infringing. We accommodate and do not interfere with standard technical measures used by copyright owners to protect their materials. In addition, pursuant to 17 U.S.C. Section 512 (c), we have implemented procedures for receiving written notification of claimed infringements and for processing such claims in accordance with the Act. All claims of infringement must be submitted in a written complaint that complies with the requirements below and delivered to our designated agent to receive notification of claimed infringement by mail:

The Legal Department
909 N. Sepulveda Blvd., 11th Floor
El Segundo, California 90245
Tel: 888 879 0239
legal@internetbrands.com

In addition, any written notice regarding any defamatory or infringing activity, whether of a copyright, patent, trademark or other proprietary right must include the following information:

A. A physical or electronic signature of a person authorized to act on behalf of (1) the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed or (2) the person defamed.

B. Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed, or, if multiple copyrighted works at a single online site are covered by a single notification, a representative list of such works at that site. Similarly, for materials that are defamatory or infringe patent, trademark, or other proprietary rights of a third party, please submit a list of such materials.

C. Identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing, to be the subject of infringing activity, or that is claimed to be defamatory and that is to be removed or access to which is to be disabled, and information reasonably sufficient to permit us to locate the material.

D. Information reasonably sufficient to permit us to contact you, such as your address, telephone number, and/ or e-mail address.

E. A statement that you have a good faith belief that use of the material, in the manner complained, of is not authorized by the copyright or other proprietary right owner, its agent, or the law.

F. A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that you are authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed or on behalf of the person defamed.

seems like pretty standard legal bumpf... just comply with what they're asking and they'll take it down...

[Godmother]

Originally Posted by anchorbuildings

seems like pretty standard legal bumpf... just comply with what they're asking and they'll take it down...

yes but that's not the point! THEY DON'T CARE

They have ALLOWED thatand they don't even care!!! OWWWWW I HATE MM

Always did Always will - it sucks!

[anchorbuildings]

no don't think it's that they don't care. they just have to investigate it a little otherwise you could just claim all your competitors were frauds and have their profiles removed. it might take a little while but do what you need to and you'll have them shut down...

there's no way they could verify that every upload is a legitimately copyrighted image...

[madclark]

Can you post comments on each of the photos to that effect?

[Godmother]

Originally Posted by anchorbuildings

no don't think it's that they don't care. they just have to investigate it a little otherwise you could just claim all your competitors were frauds and have their profiles removed. it might take a little while but do what you need to and you'll have them shut down...

there's no way they could verify that every upload is a legitimately copyrighted image...

I don't know... it's why they call them self MODS -- If I have an account to be approved and it' a girl charging U$D50 and she works for DIOR and MAC I'd get a bit suspicious ¬¬

The MAC adds COME ON!!! Moderation on that site SUCKS

[Markzebra]

It looks worse than it is - and that's probably whats intended, its just a "we cant be arsed to do anything" standard legal thing. A translation of their requirements … as far as I can see…

1 A written letter clearly stating that you are the 'creator' of the images, and that those images have been directly taken from you AND the Photographers.

A Your signature

B A list of exactly which images on the site that 'High-end anonymous Retouching, Female' is claiming are hers - the ones that you did. You can't copyright them - that's for the photographer, THEY will have copyright

C As above, and a link to the material that you want them to take down "or access to which is to be disabled"

D Your written statement that the photographer who owns copyright, does not authorize the use of those images by 'Retouching, Female" - and needs to be signed.

E A statement of accuracy - just means "…*the information contained in this letter is complete and accurate"

A threat with legal action (advice, doesn't necessarily have to be followed up of course) - that's the best you can do.

[0lBaldy]

Originally Posted by Godmother

http://www.modelmayhem.com/pics.php?id=1134537

How can someone do such a thing!!!!

She doesn't only uses my pictures but also MAC and DIOR - I know those images and who's done them!!!!

Many are from this same FORUM

OMG OMG OMG

How can we stop this? I HATE MM and i don't have an account there because I think it's a very amateur site and most mods are jerks. But I think I should create one, just to let them know about this!!!!

Wonder how many of my images are out there?????

HELP!

x

Natalia, Clicked your link and got this message

" MM#
This user is not here atm. bye. "

[Godmother]

Originally Posted by 0lBaldy

Natalia, Clicked your link and got this message

" MM#
This user is not here atm. bye. "

Must have been the around.... 1500 ppl writing to MM and flagging her

lol

It's nice to be liked

[toan thai]

sadly, she is gonna create another account and repost yours and others images. dishonest people are everywhere, not just on MM. btw, natalia: do you still hate MM? i see you spend a lot of time giving retouching tips to "photoshop wizards" over there

[Godmother]

Originally Posted by toan thai

sadly, she is gonna create another account and repost yours and others images. dishonest people are everywhere, not just on MM. btw, natalia: do you still hate MM? i see you spend a lot of time giving retouching tips to "photoshop wizards" over there

I hate them... but better be in it if I'm gonna stop the fakers

I still hate the administrators tho, until they prove they are not arses .

In my country the gob decided to expand winter holidays ¬¬ so I was a full time mother for 2 weeks, couldn't do any work - I was BORED...I don't give out "advices" I just tell ppl what I DO and what I THINK it's right - I'm not the owner of the truth so it's just another opinion.

xx

[toan thai]

Originally Posted by Godmother

I hate them... but better be in it if I'm gonna stop the fakers

I still hate the administrators tho, until they prove they are not arses .

In my country the gob decided to expand winter holidays ¬¬ so I was a full time mother for 2 weeks, couldn't do any work - I was BORED...I don't give out "advices" I just tell ppl what I DO and what I THINK it's right - I'm not the owner of the truth so it's just another opinion.

xx

you were a full time mother for only two weeks? that wasn't a long time

[Cyberek]

Godmother - still, i think You can take legal actions. Administrators of MM have logs of ppl, who created accounts (ip adresses, which can be quickly converted to physical street, country etc). If You will take more ppl, and do it together, maybe the case will become more popular and knowk, so next time, someine will try to use others work will think about it. The best off all, is that proppably You will not have to pay for legal case, and in the end, only time, that You will spend on searching how to do it correctly (in Yours country) will be needed to finish the case.
Lately i have been talking with my friend from company, that works to take money from debtors. In most cases, ppl dont care to fight for their rights becouse they think it will cost a lot of money, but in reality, if You have rights to something, that have been stoled, You will not take any costs of legal actions.
And if more and more ppl will do, maybe the world will become better .

[pixeltek]

Originally Posted by Godmother

OWWWWW I HATE MM

Always did Always will - it sucks!

So why join them? For someone how hates them so much, yu seem pretty active there now. If you want respect from MM, I'd suggest you stop putting them down so much. Your good work will only take you so far. I've found that you spew a lot of hatred. For those MMers that don't read the forums here, they'd probably love to see just how much you hate them.

[Godmother]

Originally Posted by toan thai

you were a full time mother for only two weeks? that wasn't a long time

oh u have NO IDEA

24-7 ... it's hard work

I'm independent, used to work, like... no no LOVE working (My job is also my hobby) - I did NOTHING productive for 2 weeks I was loosing my mind!

It was nice tho... don't get me wrong - I only work from 8 to 4 (school time) then I'm all his... but not working at all? harsh

xx

[Godmother]

Originally Posted by pixeltek

So why join them? For someone how hates them so much, yu seem pretty active there now. If you want respect from MM, I'd suggest you stop putting them down so much. Your good work will only take you so far. I've found that you spew a lot of hatred. For those MMers that don't read the forums here, they'd probably love to see just how much you hate them.

I don't mean users but the way they conduct the site... well...

Here in Retouch Pro the mods and adm are GENUINELY worried about copyright and everyone being respectful and nice to everyone.

I like the forums and the users. Everyone seems nice in MM

But I never got an email from the Adm saying, everything was taken cared of, sorry for the inconvenience!


BTW: I joined so I could GET the fakers down... the adm don't even let u contact them if u don't have an account!

x

[toan thai]

Originally Posted by Godmother

oh u have NO IDEA

24-7 ... it's hard work

I'm independent, used to work, like... no no LOVE working (My job is also my hobby) - I did NOTHING productive for 2 weeks I was loosing my mind!

It was nice tho... don't get me wrong - I only work from 8 to 4 (school time) then I'm all his... but not working at all? harsh

xx

wait, i think we are not on the same page. i thought you were a full time mother for two weeks before giving your son up for adoption. anyhow, i am not a parent so i can't imagine. all i know is: it's difficult!!

[Godmother]

Originally Posted by toan thai

wait, i think we are not on the same page. i thought you were a full time mother for two weeks before giving your son up for adoption. anyhow, i am not a parent so i can't imagine. all i know is: it's difficult!!

LOL NO! I have a 4 year old (who I LOVE) - He is my life

I'm just ranting about the extended vacations