RetouchPRO

Go Back   RetouchPRO > Tools > Non-RetouchPRO Resources
Register Blogs FAQ Site Nav Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Non-RetouchPRO Resources Books, courses, other websites. Discussion of anything to do with learning outside of RP.

Loretta Lux's skin tone and pastel tinting

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #21  
Old 07-09-2006, 08:34 PM
Benny Profane's Avatar
Benny Profane Benny Profane is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: third stone from the sun
Posts: 582
Hey, Nancy, we're all trying to get by. If she can make a living doing that and disturb me and make me look more than once or twice, great. She's young, and may just evaporate from the spotlight, or do something wierd like Cindy Sherman did just to shake up the expectations. I'm a little obsessed with her because I want a friend to do child photography, and I'm studying the look. God knows, as a mature man, I'd probably be arrested for making those pictures.
Reply With Quote top
  #22  
Old 07-14-2006, 08:35 PM
pindaro's Avatar
pindaro pindaro is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by RAitch
I never understood why people would want to post half-ass instructions as a "tutorial" on how to do something. If you're not going to share everything... why spend the time?

Not trying to duplicate this skin tone... here's something cool that I have used before to give a picture a real muted pastel type tone.

Duplicate your merged layer and desaturate it. Then copy the desaturated layer 2 more times.
On the middle B&W layer, change the blend mode to screen.
On the top B&W layer, change the blend mode to soft light (and/or play with the other contrast blend modes - hard light/vivid light/overlay)
Now, drop the opacity of the first (untouched) B&W layer so the original image won't be totally converted.
Then drop the opacity of the screen level a bit so you won't blow it out totally.
Then drop the opacity of the soft light layer (top) to get the effect you want... combined with masking, it's a cool effect. Once you get the effect you want, you can merge the new B&W layers together and add a mask.

Just tweak around with the layer opacities until you get something you like.
The bottom layer controls how desaturated the image is.
The screen layer controls brightening the image.
And the softlight layer controls the contrast of the image. Generally, it'll look better with high opacity.

Anyway, those instructions might not get the exact result you're looking for, but at least it's something to play with that has complete instructions not holding anything back.

Knowledge is only power when you share it.

Niiiiiice.

Thanks a lot, its simple and works fine...
Reply With Quote top
  #23  
Old 07-17-2006, 09:32 PM
RAitch RAitch is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 11
Simple is good!! Glad you like it.
Reply With Quote top
  #24  
Old 09-01-2006, 03:35 AM
imsireal imsireal is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 4
Just Curious RAitch

how is your technique any more detailed than the one I posted which you saw fit to criticize me for?
Reply With Quote top
  #25  
Old 09-02-2006, 01:32 PM
RAitch RAitch is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by imsireal
how is your technique any more detailed than the one I posted which you saw fit to criticize me for?
Hmmmm
  • "This tecchnique is my own, so I am not going to give a full play-by-play. Most of you are smart enough to figure out what's missing anyway."
  • "do you basic adjustments and retouch the image to fix the skin etc." (this is detailed)
  • "If you don't know what I am talking about, then google it."
  • "Please do not ask me for more details."
  • "My instructions are a bit vague so that you have room to experiment"

Unlike yours, instead of tying to control the technique by withholding information, I gave every step required to get the finished result. There's nothing there that I'm holding back... or leaving for somebody to figure out.

And sure, there is some flexibility in that you can change the layer opacities to the desired effect. That's alright because you have everything already in front of you... Instead of leaving out gaps for "experimentation" in which somebody won't get to the end result (because you left out some critical steps).

What I'm trying to get at is that if you're going through the trouble to post a tutorial/walkthrough... you should include everything that'll help instead of taking the "well, I know how to do it... and here are a few of the steps... but since I think I've patented this technique, I'll withhold some things so you can't duplicate exactly what I'm talking about... but TRUST me... mine stuff looks cool!" road.

I believe in total release of information... otherwise it's not as helpful. That's all I'm getting at.
Reply With Quote top
  #26  
Old 09-04-2006, 07:07 AM
pavel123's Avatar
pavel123 pavel123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 799
Interesting technique.

Thanks for the tips. Followed the suggestions...
b&w layer (pretty much mimiking a red channel)
selected skin
duped b&w three times, blending in luminosity, screen, soft light
for the layers used a mask based on a skin selection
adjusted opacity of b&w layers
cooling filter at small opacity
quick and dirty hand painting

Posted the picture at a thread there it belongs

http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/sho...283#post131283

I'm not sure if I'm getting close to the target.
For Loretta Lux's images it is not just the skin color that creates the overall effect...much, much more to that.

Regards.
Pavel

Last edited by pavel123; 09-04-2006 at 07:14 AM.
Reply With Quote top
  #27  
Old 09-11-2006, 08:35 AM
harthartman harthartman is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1
i should sell my original loretta lux photos to you (the rose garden, girl with a loaf of bread, spring, dorothea) - so you can learn by watching

in fact i really like her artwork and her precise colour matching!
Reply With Quote top
  #28  
Old 09-11-2006, 09:44 AM
Dan Ryan Dan Ryan is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 13
All the skin tones look very cold and plastic like. Do people really
like this look.
Reply With Quote top
  #29  
Old 09-19-2006, 04:37 PM
imsireal imsireal is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 4
EXCUSE ME!

Yeah, sure you can take my words out of context and make me sound like a real dickhead, but that doesn't make it so.

In actuality, I did not include information on 'basic adjustment and retouch' because this is not part of the technique and everyone will have their own approach to preparing their own images; not giving a 'full play by play' in this case translates to not including precise opacity adjustment for each layer because that will vary from image to image; I saw no reason to explain capture sharpening in a skin technique tutorial, capture sharpening is related to a plug-in suite from pixelgenius.com, google it; the rest I don't need to justify but there is no sense in giving every detail in a technique that depends on variables from image to image.

Now I understand why I have heard so many complaints about this forum.


Quote:
Originally Posted by RAitch
Hmmmm
  • "This tecchnique is my own, so I am not going to give a full play-by-play. Most of you are smart enough to figure out what's missing anyway."
  • "do you basic adjustments and retouch the image to fix the skin etc." (this is detailed)
  • "If you don't know what I am talking about, then google it."
  • "Please do not ask me for more details."
  • "My instructions are a bit vague so that you have room to experiment"

Unlike yours, instead of tying to control the technique by withholding information, I gave every step required to get the finished result. There's nothing there that I'm holding back... or leaving for somebody to figure out.

And sure, there is some flexibility in that you can change the layer opacities to the desired effect. That's alright because you have everything already in front of you... Instead of leaving out gaps for "experimentation" in which somebody won't get to the end result (because you left out some critical steps).

What I'm trying to get at is that if you're going through the trouble to post a tutorial/walkthrough... you should include everything that'll help instead of taking the "well, I know how to do it... and here are a few of the steps... but since I think I've patented this technique, I'll withhold some things so you can't duplicate exactly what I'm talking about... but TRUST me... mine stuff looks cool!" road.

I believe in total release of information... otherwise it's not as helpful. That's all I'm getting at.
Reply With Quote top
  #30  
Old 09-20-2006, 04:12 AM
Lasse Lasse is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Europe
Posts: 54
Funny I actually prefered the quick and easy way imsireal descriped his version by.

Anyhow just to add a little twist on how to make white skin here goes quick and easy. add a white color layer set to color and mask it using normaly the green channel. try this and see for yourself. You will sometimes need to add a second cooler layer to adjust the transition. Or do some work on the mask and ofcause mask out more or less depending on the image.
I saa this done by a pro retoucher with 12 years of experience and on a Image that should be blown up high. So I know it works, might need tweaks to fit your images and to fit the pastel colors I would add such a color layer second or third layer.

Hopes this made sence, most techniques isnt that trickey once you get the experience of masking and colors.

/Lasse -Risici
Reply With Quote top
Reply

  RetouchPRO > Tools > Non-RetouchPRO Resources


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2016 Doug Nelson. All Rights Reserved