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Old 09-09-2008, 06:23 AM
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Pencil Sketch help needed please

Okay, I tried making a pencil sketch and am happy with it for the most part considering how new I am to this. However, I can't seem to get the area at the top of her hair to look right.

Will someone please see if they can fix it, and if so ... would you PLEASE tell me how you did it. Just doing it for me won't teach me anything and I truly want to be able to get it right so I can correct future probs like this myself.

Thanks for any and all help.
HarleyPencilWEB.jpg

Btw, the picture is from a recent photo of my oldest g-babe, Harley.
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:20 AM
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Re: Pencil Sketch help needed please

It's harder to do a pencil sketch/high key with a photo that lacks detail. That's when I cheat

I used the smudge tool with a 'hair brush' (just a bunch of dots) and then added a little grain.
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:42 AM
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Re: Pencil Sketch help needed please

Moonchild you have done great
as you may of noticed the problem is where her hair is the darkest (as well as her dress at the shoulder ) i have tried a few things but settled for smudging her hair with the smudge brush set at 20% strength and the dry brush (from the default brushes in ps)but you will need to do all the hair ,Not sure if it is any better or not

It may be better to start again and try lighting those areas before you do the technique you are using

Another options is to post your photo and a link for the technique you are using ( there are a few around this way we will know which one you are using ) and see if any one can come up with a answer that way but it is a common problem with this sort of technique ( one of my favorites and one i havent done in a while )

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Old 09-09-2008, 07:45 AM
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Re: Pencil Sketch help needed please

I never noticed your post Bill
you get a better outcome than i did ( it was quickly done )

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Old 09-09-2008, 07:50 AM
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Re: Pencil Sketch help needed please

Thank you Palms and Bill (sorry I didn't notice your post at first Bill). Smudging was the only thing I could think of to help. I tried it but didn't like it (yours is much better than my attempt).

Posting the original and the method sounds like a good idea. Sorry, but even the original was less than 100 kb

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Old 09-09-2008, 07:52 AM
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Re: Pencil Sketch help needed please

Bill ... what do you mean by smudge with a "hair" brush? That picture looks wonderful! Whatever that technique is ... it will certainly come in handy with all the low quality pictures!!!

oops ... I forgot to mention ... the tut I had used is here:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read....essage=3842725

Of course, mine is nowhere near the quality in the tut.

Wow ... the hair looks so great in that picture that I will have to learn how you did it so I can make matching sketches of all my g-babes and put them on my wall. I thought I wasn't going to be able to give presents to my children at Christmas but now ... if I learn how to do that hair .. I know for certain I will be giving them all portraits of their children. Except my youngest daughter ... portraits of her puppies.

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Old 09-09-2008, 08:14 AM
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Re: Pencil Sketch help needed please

Thank you, Palms and moonchild,

You can probably make a hair brush, but here's the kind I used. They're just a series of random dots. I guess one could do the same thing with a tiny single brush, but these brushes save time.

http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bc...wProduct=34321
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:23 AM
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Re: Pencil Sketch help needed please

Bill, thank you for the link. I am unable to purchase them at this time, but they are definately placed in my faves to get as soon as I can.

Thank you, thank you, thank you both for being so helpful!!!
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:40 AM
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Re: Pencil Sketch help needed please

Hi moonchild,

Do a search here at retouchpro. I believe they have links to free hair brushes.
LindaBrushes.abr
SarsaHairBrushes.abr

Hope they help.
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:42 AM
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Re: Pencil Sketch help needed please

Just now got them. Thank you again. I am about to go practice and hope to have a decent one to post here after a while. Wish me luck!

Also, I found the simplest tut ever for making my own hair brushes. This appears to be written with newbies in mind ... even I understood it.
http://pokefreak.deviantart.com/art/...orial-35260534
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