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02-08-2006, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken45140 ...... no such books here with Deep Paint.  | Quite a few of us around here have had a brush* with Deep Paint, so if you have any questions fire away. You won't go long without an answer.
Rô *sorry, couldn't resist | 
02-08-2006, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by byRo Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that you are comparing the "Full-blown" version of Deep Paint with the "watered-down" freebie Painter.
Rô | True, those are the only two I have. I realize that the $400 (or whatever it is) program will have as many and probably more knobs, but by staying in the "Free" category, I get a comparison of features per dollar so to speak. I also want to say I am not taking anthing away from PainterEssentials and tried to say that I am sure I will learn when I should use it vs DP.
Stuart:
I am sorry, I thought I spoke to your point. I have done several (several more below). I use various cloning tools and move the abstract color and fuzziness slides to several positions. I also change the type of brush, I sometimes check Canvas Texture, and also change Feather and Strength. Under one of the menus, I also play with jitter and smooth. In the flower vase previously published, I changed all of these very little. In the ones below of the "Old Man", I changed them more frequently. These are really crummy, I think, but I am sharing just for learning and to illustrate what I have been getting. Hopefully, technique and results will improve with experience. If you look closely between OldMan01RTP and OldMan01bRTB, you will see blotchy color differences. The former was with cloning oval and little rework, while the latter had a lot of hand painting with very small brushes.
Can you share some of your work, even if not "the best"?
I also wind up with something that is definitely not just a duplicate of the image, but also has a lot of "holes" and in some cases, color "blotches" that I do not like. That is when I have done touch up with regular paint as I described previously.
But hey, I have only done a total of maybe five "paintings", so all you are hearing is what I have done, not Truth.
Thanks,
Ken | 
02-08-2006, 05:04 PM
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| | | Re:Jitter & Smooth Ken,
Where in DP did you find these brush controls ? I have seen these in Painter but not DP. I will do some posting of DP results soon.
Stuart | 
02-08-2006, 05:58 PM
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| | | Deep Paint Command Panel Stuart: see the attached picture. An unbelieveable combination of variables that you can adjust. Hard to experiment with even a small subset of the combinations.
Ro: if some of those who you say has had a "brush" with DP could comment on which "knobs" are the most used, or the most influential, in achieving painted looks from photos, that would be very helpful. I realize most used and most influential are very hard to define...but if someone has found one or several to be "favorites" that could be quite useful.
Ken | 
02-08-2006, 06:02 PM
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| | | Stuart: have you done (or could you do) a side by side comparison. Same initial image, one done in Deep Paint and one done in Painter, attempting to achieve a similar end result. Seems like hearing your evaluation of the differences and seeing the two results would be very informative.
Thanks,
Ken | 
02-09-2006, 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ken45140 Ro: if some of those who you say has had a "brush" with DP could comment on which "knobs" are the most used, or the most influential... | Besides what has already been said....
Hard to separated just one or two, but I'd say that you have to be in full control of the B/S ( no, that's not bullsh..) settings. These can change a soft watercolour into a dripping impasto without touching anything else.
Another place to look at is the Clone Options ( stamp tool) where you get some options like "Artistic" and "Rub through". I don't remember now exactly what they do, I do remember having some fun around there.
Rô | 
02-17-2006, 08:43 PM
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| | | Learning Deep Paint 2.o - A gold mine of resources The learning resources listed HERE are for Deep Paint 3D but will also give you some very good insights into what Deep Paint 2 can do. The first four listings will be invaluable for understanding the capabilities of this program. The first is a detailed, 40 minute video tutorial on Deep Paint. A large (40MB) download but well worth the wait. If you have played around with Deep Paint much at all you can readily distinguish difference between the two programs. One of the major differences is the absence of the Clone and Paint tabs in the 3D version.
If you like Deep Paint, run, don't walk to these learning tools. | 
02-18-2006, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Photomaster The learning resources listed HERE are for Deep Paint 3D but will also give you some very good insights into what Deep Paint 2 can do. The first four listings will be invaluable for understanding the capabilities of this program. The first is a detailed, 40 minute video tutorial on Deep Paint. A large (40MB) download but well worth the wait. If you have played around with Deep Paint much at all you can readily distinguish difference between the two programs. One of the major differences is the absence of the Clone and Paint tabs in the 3D version.
If you like Deep Paint, run, don't walk to these learning tools. | A fabulous collection of good info, PM. Thanks for pointing the way... |
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