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| | Photo-Based Art Emulating natural-media painting techniques | |
View Poll Results: My reaction after viewing the attached image was "I like this style." | |
Strongly agree
|   | 5 | 10.87% | |
Agree
|   | 9 | 19.57% | |
Somewhat agree
|   | 16 | 34.78% | |
Somewhat disagree
|   | 7 | 15.22% | |
Disagree
|   | 9 | 19.57% | |
Strongly disagree
|   | 0 | 0% | 
03-24-2005, 02:18 PM
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| | | What's your reaction? I need your help.
What I'm looking for in this poll is... Your honest reaction to this effect. (see the choices in the poll)
After voting feel free to make suggestions to make it more pleasing to you.
Thanks in advance...
~Danny~
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Who can vote?
Anyone: lurker, one who posts occasionally, regular participant. In other words, if you're reading this, you qualify.
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Additional information in case you're interested...
A good friend, Harry Ellerton, sent me the February, 2005 edition of "Digital Photo Effects," published in the UK. In this edition are three photo-art tutorials written by Tim Shelbourne which, in my opinion are quite unique, well explained and richly illustrated. As a bonus they are supplimented by video versions of each method (and the original base image) on the accompanying CD.
This interpretation is based on one of the tutorials.
Last edited by DannyRaphael : 03-24-2005 at 02:26 PM.
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03-24-2005, 02:41 PM
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| | | Somewhat Agree It's a neat effect, but the end result is too blurry for my taste.
Perhaps if you put the original image back on top, blend it 50% or something, add a solid layer mask, and then paint back in some of the details, like the eyes and a bit of detail here and there. | 
03-24-2005, 02:45 PM
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| | | My very first reaction was that it was too blurry for me also. But on a second look, it grew on me stongly. I find it touching. | 
03-24-2005, 02:49 PM
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| | | Since I voted that I didn't like this effect, I felt I should say why.
Actually, there are a number of reasons (I'm just going to put down my honest, gut reaction):
The line along her chin and various other places. It's too distinct in an otherwise blurred image. Draws the eye right to it. Which brings me to the next one - It's blurry, and smeared looking, yet there is a lot of noise in the shadows. There also seems to be white steaks running down the image (looks like from the highlights in her face.)
Also, I don't care for what the effect has done to her features, especially her eyes.
Overall, I don't get the feeling any artistic thought went into this.
Was that too harsh? | 
03-24-2005, 03:28 PM
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| | | Didn't quite see all that Vicky noticed, but certainly the line along her jawline hit a jarring note. Was not generally impressed by the effect. | 
03-24-2005, 03:30 PM
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| | | My vote was somewhere in the middle. I like the overall soft, romantic feel of the piece. The line along her chin is too well defined to fit the rest of the piece. I can understand the need for it, however, because it marks the transition between chin and neck. Could that have been achieved with shading rather than a line? What bothered me more than anything is that the eyes are not nearly as well defined as they need to be, especially when compared to the lips, which are nicely done. I'm intrigued with the technique. Are you going to share?
Janet | 
03-24-2005, 04:05 PM
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| | | Over all I have to say I like the effect. I agree with everyone that the line on the jaw is distracting and I believe there is too much detail loss to the eyes..they are more or less just shadows.
I am not sure this is a great effect for a portrait particularly one with such light hues and soft tones but I think it could be very nice on something such as landscapes, seascapes, etc. | 
03-24-2005, 04:47 PM
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| | | I like the affect, but I think it would look prettier when applied to a nature scene. | 
03-24-2005, 05:12 PM
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| | | I see potential in this technique, but I don't really like the way this image came out. The focus is a little soft for my taste, except for the line along her chin that's been mentioned before - it doesn't fit in with the rest. Also, her eyes don't draw my attention. And the texture is too heavy for such a soft image. | 
03-24-2005, 07:37 PM
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| | | I have to echo the negative points others raised: blurry but noisy, distracting outline, overdone texture, hightlight banding, & poor balance to the facial features. As a whole, I don't care much for it.
That said, these criticisms apply to this effect used on this image. It's quite possible it would be great on a different subject. It may even work ok with this image if more 'prep' work had been done (reduce contrast? byRo fix for blown highlights? other?). My experience (very limited compared to Danny's) suggests 'successful' photo art results from the 'right' manipulations applied to the 'right' image. Several times, I've come up with an effect I like but find it fails when applied to other images. Those that work well on many images are rare gems.
-Mark | 
03-24-2005, 08:27 PM
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| | | I agree w/ Vikki & Janet on the eyes. Soft blur can be used to good effect sometimes, but there just doesn't seem to be a reason for it on this photo. When I look at the eyes, I want to sharpen them. | 
03-25-2005, 08:21 AM
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| | | I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination but I like the overall effect; it has an ethereal 'feel' to it which I find pleasing. The line along the chin as has been mentioned seems out of place for such a soft treatment. Also, the hair along the brow line seems too stark for the soft effect.
Someone, (swengineer, I think) mentioned the hightlight banding and the overdone texture. These are the negatives that jump out at me. The texture is way too overpowering for the image IMHO. By highlight banding, if you mean the highlights on either side of the nose, that's what I noticed. It makes the face look like there are streaks of color missing in bands. If you can ignore the chin line and hair line, this banding tends to draw the eye to it. Then it appears that the bottom of the chin is missing (due to this hightlight banding? Tends to overly emphsize the chin line even more). There seems to be no focal point.
Ron | 
03-25-2005, 09:38 AM
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| | | I think the more I look at it, the more appealing it seems to get. Quite surprisingly. Initially I thought NAH!! like camera blur? I think there's "something" to it which is making me stare harder! There seems to be something ethereal about it, overall. Are you sure the reduction in file size hasnt caused loss of clarity, to an extent? | 
03-25-2005, 09:50 AM
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| | | honest reaction [quote=DannyRaphael]I need your help.
What I'm looking for in this poll is... Your honest reaction to this effect. (see the choices in the poll)
After voting feel free to make suggestions to make it more pleasing to you.
Thanks in advance...
~Danny~
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I very much like the effect, I think it has a sort of modern renascence appeal to it, my critiques of the image is, though not sure if this is a result of the effect or just the choice of the image; the jaw line on the girls face is to sharp and defined, it seems to be abstract to the overall softness of the image. but that said I still think the effect is fantastic. | 
03-25-2005, 10:05 AM
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| | | I have to say I do like the style even though Danny's version is somewhat softer than the one in the magazine, of course having the magazine makes a difference as I have tried the tutorial myself so can understand the technique involved.
Christine |
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