[GillyH]

I love using this tut in PaintShop Pro 7.0 (http://www.state-of-entropy.com/newt.../morepaint.htm) on flowerscans which I get from Mark Charnesky's wonderful Flowerscans site (http://www.geocities.com/jaminecharneski/marks9.html). I remove the black backgound, defringe any stubborn black bits/edges and put the flower on another layer with a seperate white background first, just so I can see what I'm doing.

Once you've got the basic technique, you can play around with the Speck sizes , the sensitivity, and the Hue/Saturation/Lightness settings.

some of my results attached (I hope )

Gilly

[Legacy~Art]

Beautiful!!!

[DannyRaphael]

Very cool resources, Gilly. The scanned flowers site will definitely come in handy.

You are already making a positive difference here at RetouchPRO!

Keep it up!

[Xaran]

Nice images but did you read this




Copyright © 1998 - 2004 Mark Charneski
Legal: My flower pictures are protected by international copyright laws.
Reproduction in any form, electronic or otherwise is strictly forbidden
unless approved in writing by the copyright holder.


Christine

[DannyRaphael]

Originally Posted by Xaran

Nice images but did you read this

Copyright © 1998 - 2004 Mark Charneski
Legal: My flower pictures are protected by international copyright laws.
Reproduction in any form, electronic or otherwise is strictly forbidden
unless approved in writing by the copyright holder.

Christine

No, actually I didn't notice. (The flowers grabbed my attention.) Seems odd he'd upload these, make them huge and easy to view/save, and expect no one to use them.

I'll e-mail him to get clarification.

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In the mean time, here's a Related tutorial:
http://www.creativepro.com/story/fea...l?cprose=daily

[GillyH]

Originally Posted by Xaran

Nice images but did you read this

Copyright © 1998 - 2004 Mark Charneski
Legal: My flower pictures are protected by international copyright laws.
Reproduction in any form, electronic or otherwise is strictly forbidden
unless approved in writing by the copyright holder.


Christine

Thanks all

Yep, I've seen the clause, Xaran , but I've been going to that site for years (about 1999 I think) and when I originally made and posted those pics to my website I'm sure he didn't have that particular clause up. I think the clause he had up said that his flowers could be used on websites for non-profit purposes etc with his email permission - which I got.. I think he was later forced to add the current clause when graphics sites started selling site-sets and graphics made with his flower-scans. I haven't posted any others to my site since these, but I'd be interested to know what he says about this sort of over-painting now

Gilly

[charneski]

You ALL have my permisson to retouch / play with my flowers, as long as they are not used for commerical purposes.
IF my website is working, you can read the terms on the homepage. http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/...ark/marks.html
It is down frequently due to the fact it is a free site with limited bandwidth...

BUT I do sell a CD for $30.00 of my flower scans if anyone is interested,
just drop me a line to: mailto:charneski33935@aol.com

Again, please have fun playing with my flowers, you all have my permission. The copyright is just to keep folks from making money off my labors.

Mark Charneski

[gholmes1936]

Originally Posted by GillyH

I love using this tut in PaintShop Pro 7.0 (http://www.state-of-entropy.com/newt.../morepaint.htm) on flowerscans which I get from Mark Charnesky's wonderful Flowerscans site (http://www.geocities.com/jaminecharneski/marks9.html). I remove the black backgound, defringe any stubborn black bits/edges and put the flower on another layer with a seperate white background first, just so I can see what I'm doing.

Once you've got the basic technique, you can play around with the Speck sizes , the sensitivity, and the Hue/Saturation/Lightness settings.

some of my results attached (I hope )

Gilly

Oh, how very nicely done! I especially like the middle one. Tell me more about how you did them. I have ordered Painter IX, but it hasn't arrived yet. Only familiar with Photoshop, so I need some heavy duty Painter tutoring. HELP!

[DannyRaphael]

Originally Posted by gholmes1936

Only familiar with Photoshop, so I need some heavy duty Painter tutoring. HELP!

For openers click Search Button above (advanced opition).
* Search argument: Painter tutorial
* Specify option Search in title

Also near the BOTTOM of this thread are more Painter tutorial links:
http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3244

Most of the above assume at least some familiarity with Painter, however.

= = = = = =

As one highly experienced with Photoshop before getting Painter, I found the "very basic, start from the beginning" courses in Painter offered at http://www.EclecticAcademy.com to be very helpful and exceptionally cost effective.

Great instructor, useful course materials, engaging exercises that help one learn Painter the right way vs. the typical "I can learn it myself" approach = willy-nilly.

Good luck with Painter. In its own way I find it as amazing as Photoshop!

[Kraellin]

very nice renditions, gillyh

and thank you for that site and for getting permission and for getting charnesky to post here!

and thank you charnesky for some great shots and for the permission! i've copied a couple to my drive and may do some things with them later.

in the meantime, i thought i'd try out the process mentioned on some of my own photos. these photos were a series i took about 35 years ago. the prints are long gone and the negatives are degrading, so i thought i'd better get them scanned into the computer before they got any worse. they had to be cleaned up quite a bit before applying the technique mentioned in the first post here by gillyh, but after doing that, and then playing with the technique a bit, i came up with one i like and it's posted below. this started out as a pink rose. i actually ran through the process twice and altered a thing or two here and there and did some final, minor retouching. definitely an interesting process.

K.

[DannyRaphael]

...thought i'd try out the process mentioned mentioned in the first post here by gillyh...and then played with the technique a bit.

Wonderful execution. I always admire those who feel free to "color outside the lines" on these types of things. Exploring and stretching the envelop is a good thing, yielding this lovely piece of art.

Did you print it by chance?

[Kraellin]

thanks danny

yes, i made a print... and then promptly gave it away i've still got it on the computer, though.

the initial reason i altered the process a bit was that my resolution and file size were fairly large and the color variation wasnt as great. thus, the stated process didnt have as much effect as in the tutorial. i also use paint shop pro 7.xx, but it just wasnt coming up as dramatic as the tut. so, you do what they say, but after that it's time to get creative

K.

[Kraellin]

here's a couple more with different treatments after the stuff in the tut. the first is even more oil looking to me. i added a couple of layers, one was a texture layer and the other was a criss-cross of the window blinds effect, but in a very tight pattern and almost completely translucent. this was to help simulate the look of being on a canvas. i also added a levels lightening layer and a contrast layer.

then, to spread the 'oil' around a bit, i added a brushstroke layer and simply adjusted the opacity down till it looked pretty good. and that was that.

on the 2nd one, to get the water color look, i added a 'colored edges' layer, which combined with the brushstroke layer, spreads stuff around even more, giving it more of a water color look.

kinda cool

K.

[DannyRaphael]

...giving it more of a water color look

That one turned out particularly well... A very convincing effect.

[Kraellin]

thanks danny.

yeah, i thought that one came out pretty well also.

and here's the original directly from the negative scanner, just to give you an idea of where this was and what had to be done to make it more presentable.

K.