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06-07-2005, 05:46 PM
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| | Glad to see eveyone is having fun!! Seems that I'm not the only one inspired by this one. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Kraellin ... i went through 30 pages of the 'people' section and couldnt find it, so start your search at 31  | ...good thing for you!! Bet you found a whole load of interesting images to play with. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Kraellin i wanted to 'age the painting'. | If I was doing this in PS, I'd be trying out some Render>Lighting Effects, or maybe Emboss - that would break the paint up even more - don't know how that translates into PSP. I've never tried aging a photo, usually I'm going in the other direction, so I can't offer any more tips.
Here's one of my attempts at Pointillist with an Art-History brush. I sent the brush to the Resources section - should appear there soon.
Rô | 
06-07-2005, 08:03 PM
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| | hehehe, yeah, lots of interesting images there. finally saw your note where you'd found it on page 32. lol.
i'll look at emboss. it's prolly very similar to p-shop's. still learning all these tools. all psp 7 has in actual lighting effects is 'illumination' and 'starburst'. but i did just install deep paint 2. that may have something also. i have a number of filters that i can try as well. what i was really after was that sort of thick paint effect that cracks with time. i've got the cracking effect, but it has almost no depth to it.
the pointillist effect is interesting. can you vary the effect much?
K. | 
06-07-2005, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Kraellin the pointillist effect is interesting. can you vary the effect much? | Before painting, you can vary the setup of the brush a lot. This one uses hue, saturation and purity jitter to make the variation in the colours. However once you start painting with the Art-History brush... well.. it has been likened to a pack of wild horses!
Here, I did another layer with a smaller size brush to bring out a little more detail. I don't even know if PSP has something like the Art-history brush. Does it?
Rô | 
06-07-2005, 08:37 PM
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| | Kraellin, I am a texture collector. Dream Suite offers lots of crackle, and other textures, but a cheaper way to go is take pictures of wrinkles, cracks, thick paint etc. and scan them in or load digital images. You can desaturate them and adjust levels until the texture looks nice and then use them as a top layer over your pictures in overlay ore multiply mode. Another source for textures is scrap book paper. There is a treasure trove of backgrounds and textures that scrap book makers use.
Cathy | 
06-07-2005, 08:46 PM
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| | cathy,
of course! in fact, i used to do that back in the 8 bit and 16 bit days of computing. i'd take pictures of gravel, stones, leaves, etc and use those for texture....d'oh, i must be getting old  thanks!
K. | 
06-08-2005, 10:49 AM
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| | | Kraellin's Manip I tried adding some brush strokes from Impressionist to your darkened image.
Not nesessarily better, just wanted to see if it would work.
Thanks for allowing me to play with it.
Steve C. | 
06-08-2005, 12:15 PM
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| | thanks Ro.
i'm not sure if psp has anything similar... still exploring all the tools, but i dont think so. i do have a lot of plugins and imported textures and patterns and so on, but i cant use the p-shop brushes. they have a different extension that psp doesnt recognize. perhaps deep paint will have what i want. still exploring that one also.
cazubi,
is Dream Suite a stand-along program or a plug-in for p-shop? i'll have to google it. thanks
steve,
didnt comment on your earlier stuff. you posted while i was mid-post and working on an image. nice  and on your last post, you've got the feel/age sort of effect i wanted, but you lost a bit of the cracking. nice effect, but not quite what i wanted. the look i was going for is that deep paint look, where they apply the paint with a blade rather than a brush, lots of depth to it, but it's aged and cracked now. you've got the aging and 'yellowing' down, but not the depth and cracking... at least for what i was looking to do. still, a nice effect
i'll continue to work on it. oh, and is the style of painting i'm talking about here 'impasto' or is that something else?
oh, and Ro, i think you forgot to actually post your last image  or did you put it on your new host site?
K. | 
06-08-2005, 12:51 PM
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| | | Kraellin pic again Thought I would keep playing.
See if this is closer.
Steve
BTW, I am using PSP also. Ver. 9.
Last edited by Steve Conway; 06-08-2005 at 01:05 PM.
Reason: Image problems
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06-08-2005, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Kraellin ...the look i was going for is that deep paint look, where they apply the paint with a blade rather than a brush, lots of depth to it, .......and is the style of painting i'm talking about here 'impasto' or is that something else? | Yep, that's it. Though it can be applied with a brush too (or a trowel) Quote: |
Originally Posted by Kraellin oh, and Ro, i think you forgot to actually post your last image  | When I said "Here" in post #18, I was referring to the atachment in post #16. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Kraellin or did you put it on your new host site?K. | It's there too. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Steve Conway See if this is closer. | Not exactly impasto - but it sure looks good!
Rô | 
06-08-2005, 01:38 PM
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| | | With some cracks OK, last one.
Steve | 
06-08-2005, 02:03 PM
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| | | Impasto? Here's one in impasto. Not sure it goes with the delicate impression of the photo.
Thanks Ro for your nice comments.
Steve C. | 
06-08-2005, 03:00 PM
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| | steve,
ok, that last one is getting much closer to what i was thinking of... lots of depth on the paint itself, but spread it around more, crack it a bit, and give it some 'edge' on the high parts of the thick paint. you're very close
also, since you said you're using psp 9, how do you like it? how does it compare to earlier versions, at least back to psp 7, which is what i use, and if you know, how does it compare to photoshop or photoshop cs? i'm particularly interested because i'm debating whether to go the expensive photoshop route or stay with psp but just upgrade, and i'd love any comparisons.
Craig
edit: oh, and Ro, thanks. always helpful and i love your work! | 
06-08-2005, 03:21 PM
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| | Steve, that's real good.
Been thinking though.. if you're going for an aged look maybe you should yellow the whites a bit.
Doesn't seem right somehow, bright white cracked paint?
Rô | 
06-08-2005, 05:50 PM
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| | | Hadn't tried Impasto before - here's my first shot at it.
Rô | 
06-08-2005, 08:45 PM
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| | | Ro,
i like the effect on the dress, not so much on the foreground girl's face, however. a bit much maybe there?
p-shop has an impasto effect/brush/filter, yes, no?
Craig |
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