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06-08-2005, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Kraellin p-shop has an impasto effect/brush/filter, yes, no? | No, this is from (Corel) Painter.
I saved two versions, one with the impasto effect turned on, the other turned off. Back in PS, I set them up as two layers and masked out some of the impasto effect on the faces - not enough it seems!
Rô | 
06-09-2005, 08:01 AM
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| | | Re. Yellowing the whites Makes sense to me.
Guess I was trying more for an example than a good finished product.
I'll fool around with it some more...see what I come up with.
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Originally Posted by byRo Steve, that's real good.
Been thinking though.. if you're going for an aged look maybe you should yellow the whites a bit.
Doesn't seem right somehow, bright white cracked paint?
Rô | | 
06-09-2005, 08:21 AM
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| | | Re. PSP [quote=Kraellin]steve,
ok, that last one is getting much closer to what i was thinking of... lots of depth on the paint itself, but spread it around more, crack it a bit, and give it some 'edge' on the high parts of the thick paint. you're very close
also, since you said you're using psp 9, how do you like it? how does it compare to earlier versions, at least back to psp 7, which is what i use, and if you know, how does it compare to photoshop or photoshop cs? i'm particularly interested because i'm debating whether to go the expensive photoshop route or stay with psp but just upgrade, and i'd love any comparisons.
Craig
Really like PSP 9. Also have version 8 installed. Since ver. 8 you have scripting ability, both write and run. In version 9 there is a fav among psp users called "art media effects." It allows brush and palette types to paint from scratch.
Those are just two of the additions since 7. There are many more. I would find a review site on the net that lists all the "bells & whistles" for more info.
I can only compare it to Photoshop Elements 2, but PSP wins. If you are a commercial artist or do this kind of work, then I am sure you would probably need Photoshop or other high-end product. For home use PSP is great funtionally and price-wise.
And I'll keep playing with the ladies pic. Like everyone says, that's a great pic as is.
Steve | 
06-09-2005, 08:33 AM
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| | Kraellin, Dream Suite is a both a stand-alone program and a plug-in. I like it better as a stand-alone. You can look into it on http://www.autofx.com/
Cathy | 
06-09-2005, 09:21 AM
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| | | The Ladies Once More The Impasto needs to show a bit more.
Comments?
Steve | 
06-09-2005, 10:43 AM
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| | | Less Color Thought less color saturation might add aging. Also seems to bring out impasto a bit more.
Steve | 
06-09-2005, 11:12 AM
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| | I used the AHB chalks and watercolor, Impressionist filter paint with fine brush strokes with that layer set to overlay at a low opacity, played with the saturation then applied a canvas texture.
High res version: here
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06-09-2005, 02:58 PM
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| | thanks Ro
thanks Cathy
steve,
you're so close now i can smell the paint. narrower crack lines and have a bit more of them and you've got what i was thinking of. i like the first of those last two more, btw. a bit too much 'aging' on the 2nd one with the de-saturation? still, you're right close to the money with both of them.
yes, i'll check into the diffs on psp 7, 8, and 9 online. i'm sure the user groups and sites will have something. and thanks
elleth,
lovely! that really looks like it's on canvas. could you reduce those tiny balls a bit? keep the canvas look, just reduce the depth of the those dots a bit and maybe the number of them a tiny bit and you've got a museum piece.
also, if i annoy anyone with my 'advices/critiques/suggestions' just let me know and i'll shut up. you all do amazing work and i really dont want to be the annoying 'art critic' here.
Craig | 
06-09-2005, 03:34 PM
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| | Ended up using textures and patterns for the cracks. Will have to see if I can come up with one with more and narrower. 8-)
And thanks for your comments.
Re. PSP9....you can download a demo and try it out for yourself. I am still finding new things to play with and I got my copy a day or so after it's release.
Steve
steve,
you're so close now i can smell the paint. narrower crack lines and have a bit more of them and you've got what i was thinking of. i like the first of those last two more, btw. a bit too much 'aging' on the 2nd one with the de-saturation? still, you're right close to the money with both of them.
yes, i'll check into the diffs on psp 7, 8, and 9 online. i'm sure the user groups and sites will have something. and thanks | 
06-09-2005, 04:25 PM
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| | Thanks Craig, this result was a happy accident!
I appreciate your input.
After taking a break and looking at the image again I agree with you about the "bumps".
This may be an improvement. High res here | 
06-09-2005, 06:34 PM
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| | | Neve Impressionist Ladies Thanks Ro, I remember these two ladies from ages ago. Wonderful results everyone and thanks for the nudge Janet  to try the Impressionist Brush in Painter. | 
06-09-2005, 09:12 PM
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| | elleth,
you lost the bumps; good  but in the process you lost some of the 'canvas' texture. not sure what the happy medium is there. i liked that canvas look. could you take that one and just mild opacity clone it down a bit on the bumps?
nice, neve
K. | 
06-09-2005, 11:17 PM
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| | | Quick one this time using Jaykita's Watercolour settings again.... | 
06-10-2005, 01:40 AM
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| | | Bless you Neve! Your creation looks very lovely, indeed.
I see some fabulous work here. Ro, your image is a big hit, and no wonder. Thank you for it.
I had FUN doing this one. Started out in Painter 8, with changes in value and saturation, then cloned with a custom brush for a loose painted effect, changed backgr by hand, finally some additional color changes in ps7 using selective color adjustments.
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06-10-2005, 02:41 AM
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| | | FABULOUS Judy! I've got no sense of balance at all when it comes to trying to do something like this...you've got a natural talent! |
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