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Old 11-27-2005, 04:50 PM
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Copy question from other thread.

Would like to know how to get the beautiful edge effects the atist get, like in
Catherine's image.

http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/att...chmentid=26789

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Old 11-27-2005, 09:20 PM
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Nancy...

I split off your question from the other thread so it wouldn't get buried there...

My guess is Catherine used one of Painter's bristle brushes for her frame.

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A simple edge effect you can do in Photoshop is...
* Above your finished "painting," create a new layer
* Fill it with white
* Add a "Hide all" (black) Layer Mask
* Use the Rectangular selection tool to draw a selection to define the edges (about 1/4"-1/2" from each side)
* Select > Inverse
* Edit > Fill > White
* Select > Deselect
* Choose a "rough texture" brush, like Chalk 36 or one of the Spatter brushes
* Turn on the Airbrush setting
* Set foreground color to white
* Start "painting" the edges of the Layer Mask. You'll need to adjust brush size, flow and opacity as you go.

Hopefully the attached example and Layer Palette snapshot will adequately illustrate the concept and final outcome as well as prompt others to make suggestions.

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Old 11-27-2005, 10:16 PM
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Lol, Danny,
I thought I lost it! couldn't figure out how I didn't notice I put a title in "edge effects." Thanks for telling me, I would have wondered about it for a while!

I use a similar techinique.. Same but different. On the original I create a layer mask filled with white and then create a new layer under it filled with white. On the layer mask, I use a grundgy brush adjust jitters, spacing, etc. and paint the edges in black, if (when) I mess up on the edge, I switch the brush color to white and go over the places I don't like... a little different way about it but the same effect (see attached),however, the effect is still somewhat different then the edge effect I see done in "painter?" I would think love to know how they do this. I do have painter, but am a complete newbie... just starting playing with it this week.
Thanks for the help. Truly appreciated!
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Old 11-28-2005, 12:02 AM
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Danny, I really like the painting of the house you used in this thread to illustrate edge art. I presume this was done in painter; I think it's very effective.
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Old 11-28-2005, 08:01 AM
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Hi, Nancy. (That's my sister's name )
Old habits die hard, and whatever I do in Painter always ends up back in PS for the final tweaks, and for this one, I had already given it a white border, then used Art History brushes (my favorite tools) to feather the edges. Hope that makes sense.
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Old 11-28-2005, 06:41 PM
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Danny, I really like the painting of the house you used in this thread to illustrate edge art. I presume this was done in painter; I think it's very effective.
Alan
Yes, the example was crafted using Painter.

Painter has functionality called "cloning" that works like Photoshop's Art History Brush, but a lot better in terms of brush options and control.

It works pretty well on scenery, architecture and the like, but not so good IMO on people faces... :-)
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Old 11-28-2005, 08:03 PM
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Catherine...my full name is also Catherine and I have a sister named Nancy.

I have found some very nice "grunge brushes" for PS that are free, and make great edges, or rough up any surface. I just Googled "grunge brushes". Maybe you could try them out on your border edges.

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Old 11-28-2005, 09:18 PM
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thanks Catherine, Catherine... well trying everything... and I guess what I really need is practice...argh! This is my second painting with painter. The first one I was horrified to find gup all over it (when I reopened it in PS), that didn't show in painter, then found out "clear impasto" did the trick!
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:25 AM
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Cathy, that's pretty cool, and we even spell "Catherine" the same. (There are several spellings as you know, )and both with sisters named Nancy. I won't go any further. If you have a husband named Jim, it would be getting spooky
Nancy, I'm impressed with your second Painter painting. Wonderful! I mostly added the edges because the photo is so closely cropped, and I wanted a little extra real estate added to it. If you have PSP, there are tons of interesting preset frames online for it. I used to use them but haven't in a long time.
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Since I haven't exactly followed this thread closely, forgive me it this has already been mentioned.

Edge effects can also be created by making a selection around the picture and turning that selection into a path. Then you can take any brush, tweak the brush settings to your liking and hit stroke path. If you don't like it, you can always undo and retry.

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