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Painter IX Artist Oils, an oil/acrylic painter perspective

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Old 01-15-2006, 01:49 PM
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Painter IX Artist Oils, an oil/acrylic painter perspective

I purchased my Wacom in order to use Painter, so that I could use the same technique I use for acrylic & oil painting but on the computer. But I'm now starting to think that's probably not possible. I'm now thinking that techniques for digital art are very different.

I think these Artist Oils are a good start but there is some more improvements to be made. There is a serious problem with the impasto, sometimes if I paint at a lower opacity I get a totally clear impasto. Yuk! If I don't use the impasto, my colors end up looking very flat. I tried the color variation but that doesn't work with artist oils, a real bummer. When using the color variation with the acrylics the results are disappointing as the variation appears across the brushstroke instead of along or in a random pattern. So back to Artist Oils, I've been experimenting with the multicolor dropper, but what this does is put long multicolored stripes in the paint. If dirty mode is off, then the long stripes stay that way for each new stroke. If dirty mode is on, then the colors mix together so quick that the variation is gone right away. Real oils, which don't mix so easily, tend to hold the variation much longer. A final demand would be for the dirty mode to be based on pressure just like in real painting. It's really useful to purposely mix wet paint into wet paint and then to glide another color directly over top with them just mixing ever so slightly.

So I'm open to learning a bit here if I can just end up with a painting that looks like a real painting. So if anyone has any advice on using artist oils and getting them to behave like real oils (or acrylics) and looks like real oils (or acrylics) I'm very intested. I'll post some work once I get better at this.

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Michael
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Old 01-15-2006, 10:17 PM
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Hi Michael,
I have found that I always end up taking the images back into Photoshop for final touches.... especially adjusting color, and adding final touches to the eyes. I have heard the same from other people on this site who use painter... Attached a sample-origianl is top left.
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Old 01-15-2006, 10:36 PM
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Check out this tutorial just recommended on Paint Outside the Frame

http://www.digitalanimators.com/arti...jsp?id=28955-3

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Hi Michael,
I have found that I always end up taking the images back into Photoshop for final touches.... especially adjusting color, and adding final touches to the eyes. I have heard the same from other people on this site who use painter... Attached a sample-origianl is top left.
~Nancy~
Nice painting and thanks for the tip. One thing I'm trying to do differently, is I'm not using the original photo in my painting. I've tried both looking at the photo on my 2nd monitor, and using the photo as the background later (turning it off once finished). I think it's two different techniques to manipulate a photo, like with the cloners or smudge the paint around directly, and to paint something "from scratch". I like both, I'm just trying the latter since that's how I paint with real paint.
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Old 01-16-2006, 02:24 PM
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Check out this tutorial just recommended on Paint Outside the Frame

http://www.digitalanimators.com/arti...jsp?id=28955-3

Christine
Thanks for the link, I read through it and will be reading through the other tutorials on the site. One thing I noticed is the strokes with artist oils look terrible in his tutorial. They look very computer generated, blocky, squarish. Especially the bigger ones. I think that's why I'm liking the acrylic & oil brushes better than the artist oils brushes.
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