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Old 10-01-2008, 09:36 AM
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Help for watercolors printing needed

I tried to print the pictures, like the one attached, on watercolor paper, but the result was pretty grim. The colors were very dull and lacking of the necessary punch.
What can be done to get the required vividness of the colours ? Oversaturate it?
Or, is there some special paper on which to print which gives the look of watercolor paper without absorbing too much the ink thus making the result dull in color and in look?
Any help would be very welcome.

Arturo
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Old 10-01-2008, 03:44 PM
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Re: Help for watercolors printing needed

Hello Arturo, printing might be very tricky; there are lots of things you have to take care.
Did you print from Photoshop in RGB color space? Is your monitor calibrated? Do you have color profiles for your paper? What printer do you have? And so on…..
I’m not a specialist in printing, but I print my own restored images and I print greeting cards. It took me a while to figure out how to do it, and how everything works together.
Color management is very important.
I hope someone with experience in printing will come with some help, but give us more details.
You have nice piece of work to print
Christine
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Old 10-01-2008, 03:53 PM
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Re: Help for watercolors printing needed

see if you can get a profile for that material from the either the printers or papers websites as that would be your 1st step, the next step is to look make sure you are printing properly..this tip from russel browns site is a good starting point:

http://www.russellbrown.com/images/t...ticPrintSM.mov
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Old 10-01-2008, 04:37 PM
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Re: Help for watercolors printing needed

Hello again,
Pixelzombie, Russel Brown is a great start, but the link you posted is more advanced.
If I knew nothing or very little about printing I would be very confused watching this particular video.
Please look at this one from Russel Brown, I think it is a better start

http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/CS2...hopPrintSM.mov

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Old 10-01-2008, 08:49 PM
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Re: Help for watercolors printing needed

Arturo
To start off, I have to ask where did you get the paper you're trying to print on? It's almost impossible to print on art paper straight from the art store. Inkjet paper itself has a coating usually a clay coating. The coating provides consistency. Inkjet paper has a color profile for each type of paper depending on its absorption and other factors. You can use paper from the art store but you have to do a profile for that particular paper. Even with the profile your results will be different for each sheet of paper because each sheet has a different absorption rate without the clay coating. To create your own color profile you need a spectrophotometer and the software that goes with it. You can also do a search on Google and if you're lucky you'll find a site that will have profiles for that particular brand art paper you wish to use. Before I started doing my own this is how I got my profiles so that I could use art paper straight from the art store. I started doing this because of the lack of variety that is offered by the paper companies that make printer paper. The only company I knew of that would supply me with 200 pound art paper was Oce a commercial supplier. I also like to print on rice paper using my Epson 2200. All in all it's probably best to stick with store-bought inkjet paper. A company like Red River (http://www.redriverpaper.com ) will supply you with the proper profile for their paper that matches your printer. Even if I print with inkjet paper a little trick that I like to do is to use some 320 grit sandpaper on the paper itself, it creates a little interesting effect giving a variety of results depending on how much you use. Sorry if I carried on, it's my nature.
Steve
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Old 10-01-2008, 09:17 PM
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Re: Help for watercolors printing needed

I print for others using my Epson pro 9800; which can print up to 44" wide. I also have ImagePrint; a rip which lets me use profiles for each substrate. the color is very accurate. Look for someone in your area who can provide both the paper and the state-of-the-art printer needed to get the outcome you need. If you want the best an Epson 2200 will not do.
Hope this helps.
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Old 10-03-2008, 08:40 AM
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Re: Help for watercolors printing needed

Thanks a lot to all of you for the many and valuable advice given. Reading through them, I came to the conclusion that the first thing I've got to do is to invest some pennies and upgrade my printer which is not up to implementing any of your advice.
The second thing is probably a better monitor calibration with a monitor calibration tool.
As I am not a commercial professional but just an amateur in love with digital photography and all the possibilities that it offers, I will have to pace all my spending need.
Thanks again for you prompt and kind response

Arturo
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