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Old 01-05-2010, 02:49 PM
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Making a realistic old school high contrast Litho

The older gang will understand what I am trying to achieve if they worked in the darkroom and used orth-litho film to make high contrast B&W line art or continuous tone images.

I have looked for years to find a method that makes high contrast people images with detail... At least better detail than using the threshold adjustment in Photoshop.

Does anyone know a secret? technique? or action? to make a good detailed high contrast B&W?

I know there out there

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Old 01-05-2010, 11:22 PM
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Re: Making a realistic old school high contrast Li

Fotomatic's Techni-X filter (from the maker's of Cybia's filters) will make your day. It's free too.

http://www.cybia.co.uk/fotomatic.html
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Old 01-06-2010, 10:48 AM
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Re: Making a realistic old school high contrast Li

Thanks a ton it is probably exactly what I am looking for. I never like the threshold look and try to alter.

HOWEVER that Fotomatic's filter is only for PC's and I am exclusive Mac.

Thanks....

Anyone else got any ideas????
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Is this more or less what you are looking for? I used a plugin, OnOne PhotoTool 2 Professional Edition. Then used the Ortho tool. I think one can get a demo version to try.
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Old 01-06-2010, 07:02 PM
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Re: Making a realistic old school high contrast Li

I own the OneOne Suite 5 - I guess I missed it I will check that out thanks Gunner!
Although your pic example is not what I need I need a continuous tone image only blacks and white with no greys and lots of detail. Those who have worked in a darkroom will know the difference in this look and the digital look such as Threshold.

I will give my OnOne a try though and see if I can simulate it.... I love that software.

Thanks again
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Re: Making a realistic old school high contrast Li

I did work in darkrooms from 1969 to 1998. did all my own processing and printing, for the Air Force, The State, and The University of Texas. Not to mention I had my own home lab at one time. I was never pleased with the results that I got using litho (ortho) film as a continuous tone medium tho.. Maybe I expected to much. I even tried developing in D72 once or twice. As you may know D72 was for developing prints.
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Old 01-07-2010, 07:25 PM
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I used Ortho Litho film too but I got great effects I wish I could get now, I transferred to the litho film from b&w and color film and slides. Many times I had to re-photograph via contact print, also used 35mm ortho litho to make slide titles and masking. I will have to dig some out to show you.
I developed in Kodak Litho Developer A&B a two part liquid from powder. There was also a high speed recording film I did develop in D76 for grainy effects.

All of this just proves we are old ;-).

I started in the bathtub in the 10th grade through high school, three community colleges both as student then instructor and also for the U of Md teaching fire photography techniques.

IF all the new folks actually understood the where all the analogies and metaphors the Knoll brothers started out in the very beginning when making photoshop act like real cameras and wet darkrooms they would be amazed. I am sure your like me so glad to know both film and digital. It makes it all that more exciting. I found one technique on another site that works pretty and I will share it as soon as I get it ready.

EVERYONE I am still looking for the best treatment I can do!

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Old 01-07-2010, 10:16 PM
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Re: Making a realistic old school high contrast Li

The Air Force had the liquid A & B litho developer, so didn't have to mix it up. Also made title slide and then used a liquid color agent to make them less boring. Also made a mask using text then putting a scene behind it for something a little different also.
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Re: Making a realistic old school high contrast Li

I don't know anything about Litho but Alien Skin's Exposure has a Litho preset using the red and green channels. Have you ever tried Exposure?

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Re: Making a realistic old school high contrast Li

I don't know for sure what you are trying to do, but have you tried the stamp filter? or a gradient map adjustment layer with just black and white on the gradient? Could you post a picture of what you are shooting for?
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