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Old 06-02-2005, 10:19 PM
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I freakin' well knew it!! I was already to post what I thought was the perfect extraction. I'm poised to hit the send button but notice at the last moment a post by Flora. Comparing her extraction to mine, I determine that hers is at least 45% better than mine. How can that be? Now I know!

In checking the history of Roman dieties, a very famous one was the goddess Flora. She is among us today! Why didn't you tell us Flora? How can we possibly compete?

I've posted my very human effort to show what we mortals can accomplish.

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Old 06-02-2005, 11:23 PM
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Great Stuff

Wow guys and gals.. and deities... LOL

Great stuff.

I tried out the Russell Brown tutorial and have posted my result. I think, like Flora has demonstrated, that in this case, using the green channel would be better. I am going to keep at it. Practice maketh perfecteth!

Ok here is my question:
How would I use the regular RGB channels, let's say the Green Channel, as a mask? How do I select that channel and adjust levels to make it a mask and what would the steps be to apply it to my image?

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Old 06-02-2005, 11:38 PM
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Green Channel Try

Here is my Green Channel attempt... and I used a softer background color. I was actually just using black so that the extraction would stand out a lot more to show the 'problem' areas.

I figured out the channel selection... wow, you guys must be rubbin off on me! Whoo hooo!
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Old 06-03-2005, 06:55 AM
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I use a technique basically the same as Flora and Racc Iria, but I often just make the new layer a clipping layer this way there is no need to lock. I have used lock and or masks just depends on my mood. For some real fast jobs I will use a brush set to color mode and or Darken (depends on situation) and run right on the hair tips of the cut out layer, and if they have dark hair a quick burn on the tips can also bring favorable results.

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Old 06-04-2005, 12:12 PM
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I freakin' well knew it!! I was already to post what I thought was the perfect extraction. I'm poised to hit the send button but notice at the last moment a post by Flora. Comparing her extraction to mine, I determine that hers is at least 45% better than mine. How can that be? Now I know!

In checking the history of Roman dieties, a very famous one was the goddess Flora. She is among us today! Why didn't you tell us Flora? How can we possibly compete?


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I've posted my very human effort to show what we mortals can accomplish.

Dave
... a 'very human effort' of 'Mount Olympus' quality ....

rnbluvva,

Great job!!

creeduk,

Thanks for the tip!
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Old 06-08-2005, 03:35 AM
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Thanks for the encouragement Flora.

To everyone who shared insight and tips on this topic... thanks a million!
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Old 06-08-2005, 12:59 PM
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by george, i think she's got it

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Old 06-09-2005, 07:33 AM
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I think I need a lot more practice! It's strange but with Brown's technique I get this i pixel outline on most extractions. I'm not sure how he got his so clean. I get better results with most images using my tablet and pen and the extract feature in PS. The hair thing sometimes works with Brown's technique, but sometimes not.

I am working on another weird one. This one really did something strange. When I combined Alpha 1 with Alpha 2 it knocked out some of the hair. I'm still trying to figure out what I did wrong. See below.
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Old 06-09-2005, 07:43 AM
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Ghosting

Not sure what the technical term for this is, but the following image attachement (1st image) shows that ghosting type thing that is going on. This doesn't happen with the Extract Feature tho.

2nd image- I just did a really quick 2 minute job with the PS Extract tool to show you what I mean.

Are there any other extraction methods that will work for different situations? Seems like the technique used has to be based on the image and what it's presenting.
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Old 06-09-2005, 09:31 AM
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You should be able to get rid of the "ghosting" or fringing by applying Select-Modify-Contract or Filter-Other-Minimum.

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