Shutter or Windowframes help

maureeno · #1 08-16-2005, 02:01 AM

I've a photo I'm trying to make appear as if as if I'm seen by someone peering OUT of the window to the garden. I've burnt the leaves behind me to darken them a wee bit to fit with the branch shadows. I'm thinking of the French-type windows being partly opened and have not got the proper scheme worked up as yet.

Are there any .psd window frames done up as download anywhere that I might have a look at, does anyone know of?

Or any other idea on hand?

Thanks!
Maureen

DannyAustin · #2 08-16-2005, 02:19 AM

I think this is called a 'Barn-Door' effect.
The way i would do this is to draw the 'slats' say an inch apart and slightly at an angle for dynamism, You can draw this in Illustrator or Freehand, import it into Shop and apply a slight gaussian blur to achive the shaddowy effect, then give the layer an efect like Multiply, Screen or Overlay depending on which looks best with your image. Then adust the Transparency until your happy. Look forward to seeing the result!
Love the leaves by the way!

maureeno · #3 08-16-2005, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DannyAustin

I think this is called a 'Barn-Door' effect.
The way i would do this is to draw the 'slats' say an inch apart and slightly at an angle for dynamism, You can draw this in Illustrator or Freehand, import it into Shop and apply a slight gaussian blur to achive the shaddowy effect, then give the layer an efect like Multiply, Screen or Overlay depending on which looks best with your image. Then adust the Transparency until your happy. Look forward to seeing the result!
Love the leaves by the way!

That's an idea, Danny, thanks! I'll have a go at it and will post what turns up from my efforts!

Maureen

Kraellin · #4 08-16-2005, 12:55 PM

maureen,

i dont see any in Paint Shop Pro. dont know about Photoshop. i did a google search and you might be surprised how many folks call french doors, french windows. so, i have to ask the obvious; do you mean french doors or french windows?

also, i'd highly recommend doing a google image serach on 'french windows'. you can either borrow images (bearing in mind copywrites) for actual use or copy some of the designs in making them yourself.

and, i wasnt quite sure what you wanted to do exactly. your image you posted is only of the head. if someone were looking out a window at you, wouldnt that image be further away and have more of the body in the frame? or did you want to have it as if you were close up to the windows, maybe peering over the bottom frame of the window?

Craig

Kraellin · #5 08-16-2005, 01:27 PM

maureen,

now i know there's all sorts of things wrong with the image i'm posting here, but i just wanted to know if this is at least sort of what you're looking for?

Craig

maureeno · #6 08-16-2005, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kraellin

maureen,

now i know there's all sorts of things wrong with the image i'm posting here, but i just wanted to know if this is at least sort of what you're looking for?

Craig

You know, Craig, you just gave me an excellent idea! What I think I'll do is do up a window, put my image into it and build a wee bit of an interior wall round it, then add the rear of a head as if peering out. It will basically be a close shot of two people seeing each other through the panes.

I cropped the image and didn't save the original, at least not that I can find. I'll enlarge the garden effect a bit and leave my chin closer to the bottom frame as you've done and see what I can turn up.

Thanks for the brilliant thought!

Maureen

Kraellin · #7 08-16-2005, 05:49 PM

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You know, Craig, you just gave me an excellent idea!

well good. excellent

umm, but to my original question, was that (my image) sort of what you were originally talking about?

Craig

maureeno · #8 08-16-2005, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kraellin

well good. excellent

umm, but to my original question, was that (my image) sort of what you were originally talking about?

Craig

In a major way, it was, Craig. However now that I look at it, I see that I have to make the scheme a wee bit more tight in.

I made a French Window in PI and I'm working the piece into a scheme that I think will work. If it does, I'll show you.

Maureen

maureeno · #9 08-16-2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kraellin

maureen,

now i know there's all sorts of things wrong with the image i'm posting here, but i just wanted to know if this is at least sort of what you're looking for?

Craig

BTW, Craig, there's absolutely nothing wrong with your workup here. It's brilliant! I just see now, that you've put it in front of me, that I need to zero in closer.

Maureen

Kraellin · #10 08-16-2005, 06:22 PM

ok, what is 'PI'? photoshop illustrator?

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In a major way, it was,

good

and thank you

i found a window set on google images and used that. i erased out the outer frame and shutters and the images in the window panes and used that for the bottom top layer. found another scene seen from inside a house through windows and cut that out and put that on as the bottom layer and put your image sandwiched inbetwee on the middle layer. i erased a bit around the top of your head where it was squared up and smudged the edges a bit.

it actually took longer to find the proper window in google than it did to do the work of putting things together

i didnt bother checking for shadows and lighting and levels and so on and didnt bother to clean it up much either as i just wanted to see if this was the sort of thing you wanted. i could have also drawn in a bit of reflective quality to the panes that were no longer there to simulate them still being there. and then there's all the .jpg artifacts and ....

we're our own worse critics, arent we.

Craig

maureeno · #11 08-16-2005, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kraellin

ok, what is 'PI'? photoshop illustrator?

good

and thank you

i found a window set on google images and used that. i erased out the outer frame and shutters and the images in the window panes and used that for the bottom top layer. found another scene seen from inside a house through windows and cut that out and put that on as the bottom layer and put your image sandwiched inbetwee on the middle layer. i erased a bit around the top of your head where it was squared up and smudged the edges a bit.

it actually took longer to find the proper window in google than it did to do the work of putting things together

i didnt bother checking for shadows and lighting and levels and so on and didnt bother to clean it up much either as i just wanted to see if this was the sort of thing you wanted. i could have also drawn in a bit of reflective quality to the panes that were no longer there to simulate them still being there. and then there's all the .jpg artifacts and ....

we're our own worse critics, arent we.

Craig

You did a grand job of it, Craig!

We're our own worst critics? Yup.

Maureen

maureeno · #12 08-17-2005, 12:45 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/maureeno5/4.jpg

I decided to go with a lightkeepr's theme and have the image appear as a view from inside the lighthouse window.

I hope I posted properly. I made one window opened inward and the other closed and put a ship's wheel at the wall there.

maureeno · #13 08-17-2005, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kraellin

ok, what is 'PI'? photoshop illustrator?

good

and thank you

i found a window set on google images and used that. i erased out the outer frame and shutters and the images in the window panes and used that for the bottom top layer. found another scene seen from inside a house through windows and cut that out and put that on as the bottom layer and put your image sandwiched inbetwee on the middle layer. i erased a bit around the top of your head where it was squared up and smudged the edges a bit.

it actually took longer to find the proper window in google than it did to do the work of putting things together

i didnt bother checking for shadows and lighting and levels and so on and didnt bother to clean it up much either as i just wanted to see if this was the sort of thing you wanted. i could have also drawn in a bit of reflective quality to the panes that were no longer there to simulate them still being there. and then there's all the .jpg artifacts and ....

we're our own worse critics, arent we.

Craig

Craig, the PI is PhotoImpact. I use that programme the most as it's stuffed with shortcuts and I learnt most of my grafx from that and Paint Shop Pro 7. Photoshop 6 is what I'm learning now as if no one knew THAT, eh?....

I took online courses (6 weeks) and sat exams after (online, as well) but chose not to receive the certificate.

Maureen

Cameraken · #14 08-17-2005, 11:47 AM

Perfectly formed and now perfectly framed Maureen.
Nicely done and very inventive. My only criticism is that maybe the window should be a little bigger. The scale looks a little wrong.

Ken

maureeno · #15 08-17-2005, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cameraken

Perfectly formed and now perfectly framed Maureen.
Nicely done and very inventive. My only criticism is that maybe the window should be a little bigger. The scale looks a little wrong.

Ken

Yeah, Ken, you're spot on with the framing bit. If I attempt to perfect the scheme, I'll crop at the top of the window to make it appear it's taller and that may resolve the scaling issue. I hope....

Thanks!

Maureen