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Old 02-07-2007, 01:05 AM
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Help with integration please

I would be very grateful for some advice with this image. I am still in the process of softening the edges of the dog I have introduced into this pic, and giving it fine hairs, but I don't know if it is worth going on.

As often happens, it is only after I have processed a pic (months on) that I decide to try and introduce a new factor.

As can be seen I have given the dog grain, also shifted the colours to increase cyan and yellow. I also lowered the contrast and increased the brightness (that is still on a separate layer.)

Right now the dog, for me, sticks out like a sore thumb, but I'm not sure if I can improve matters.

I could easily re-introduce the dog if that would help, and just throw away my existing efforts.

I'm not even sure I will keep the dog, but my lack of skill in integrating it is annoying me. I would very much like to learn how to do this better.

I use ps CS2.
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Old 02-07-2007, 04:53 AM
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Re: Help with integration please

imo, not a bad extraction at all, but definitely a color issue. i copied the dog to its own layer and adjusted with selective color; next underneath that layer adjusted the color of the background and here's what i got.
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Old 02-07-2007, 05:56 AM
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Many thanks! I think that is a great improvement. I never thought of altering the background... It is amazing what a difference you have made.

Many thanks indeed

Caroline.
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:09 AM
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Re: Help with integration please

hey caroline, thanks and your welcome. the only other thing i would add is a shadow under the dog.
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Old 02-07-2007, 09:26 AM
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Re: Help with integration please

Here are some suggestions.

Photo needs rotation. The wall is falling away from the straight on dog.
Color correct the background. I have pumped up the reds here and opened up the midtones.

Without the original dog photo, it is difficult to match lighting and color, but I did a color adjustment on the dog to bring back more reds.
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Old 02-07-2007, 02:01 PM
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Re: Help with integration please

Swampy,

Thank you! The moment you said about the wall I wondered how I'd missed it...

I've done a rough cloning on your version, just to show better how the wall should sit.

I may be completely wrong about this, but I'm wondering if I could make the dog less smooth and shiny (or something.) To me he still feels more modern than the rest of the pic.

I think this is very difficult - that is why so many people (me included) often resort to giving the whole thing a very strong style (like ageing, or heavy sepia) which helps mask the differences. Or am I wrong about there being a problem with the finish of the dog versus the garden & wall. Maybe I've just looked at it for too long.

Thank you for your help.
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Old 02-07-2007, 02:19 PM
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Johnnie - thank you for the shadow reminder

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Old 02-07-2007, 02:49 PM
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Re: Help with integration please

Canna... What may be bothering your eye is depth of focus. The dog is in the foreground so should have sharper detail as well as be a bit darker, but the wall, being further away would normally be slightly blurred. As you see it now, there is a lot of detail in the wall (bricks are rough, cracked mortar etc.) and not as much in the dog. As close as the dog is, you expect to see individual hairs.
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Old 02-07-2007, 02:50 PM
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Re: Help with integration please

To me the scale is not quite right, the dog looks too large against the wall.

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Old 02-07-2007, 03:46 PM
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Re: Help with integration please

Well ignoring the wall I felt the dog lacked sharpness and contrast compared to the background so thats what I adjusted.
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