Composing - Car and Model

derLitograph · #1 02-27-2008, 02:14 AM

I changed the background. Originally it was a showroom of a tuning factory "Geiger Cars". I decided to put the car into a forrest background.
Hope you like it:
http://www.derlitograph.de/index.php?showimage=941

Mike · #2 02-27-2008, 09:03 AM

Are you asking for a critique?

derLitograph · #3 02-27-2008, 09:26 AM

no, only recognition!
:-)

haha.

If you want to critique - shoot!

Ant · #4 02-27-2008, 09:32 AM

Impossible focuses. They guy seems to float and the shoulder on the right is mushy. He also does not seem to really exist in the scene - shadowing, hard edges. Check the cars tires - color, mask

derLitograph · #5 02-27-2008, 09:41 AM

@Ant. Can you do any processing examples on my pic?

Ant · #6 02-27-2008, 10:20 AM

too small, no layers. just do it yourself.

Mike · #7 02-27-2008, 02:01 PM

It appears that the light on the trees is coming from upper right and going to lower left. He is standing on the shadow of a tree, yet he is not casting a shadow. If the light is coming from behind him, why the big hi lite on his face?

Also under the car there are very bight sun spot areas. So the car has holes in it that allow the light to pass through and hit the ground?

dataflow · #8 02-27-2008, 04:05 PM

i think you guy are looking at the image as retouches.
try looking at it from a style perspective.

not everything has to be real world perfect.
by the looks of the image it is not meant to represent the real world.

looking at it as a design its great.
if i seen it on a poster i wouldnt look at all the things that the above posts have pointed out

pixelzombie · #9 02-27-2008, 04:35 PM

if it's not aesthetically pleasing, the design principle tends to get lost...

0lBaldy · #10 02-27-2008, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derLitograph

no, only recognition!
:-) haha. If you want to critique - shoot!

I recognize that you went through a lot of work selecting the right components to make this grouping.. Put in a lot of time working on the individual elements to make them look good (the car, trees, man) the design is great, JUST not finished and still looks fake.. It is the little details (like you put into all the other elements to make them look good) that count most and your finished composite deserves the same attention to detail.. as Ant and Mike have pointed out..

Then again maybe you will be happy doing haphazard work and will be satisfied with "WOW, It looks Freakin Great!!" instead of listening to constructive criticism and learning from it.

namphoto · #11 02-27-2008, 08:55 PM

hey.. i think it looks pretty damn cool, i guess there are some flaws, but its lookin pretty nice.

whatd you use to mask the subject

derLitograph · #12 02-28-2008, 12:49 AM

@Senior members: Well, your eyes are maybe to much trained concerning retouches.
My main criteria - as a non professional - is how it looks overall. This image should not look (as dataflow said) like a real world image. BUT ... constructive criticism is very good to learn. So please do not stop to do so in the future.

@dataflow and namphoto: Thank you. Glad, someone likes it the way I do. namphoto, do you mean which selection tool I used for masking this subject? the path tool...

derLitograph · #13 02-28-2008, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike

It appears that the light on the trees is coming from upper right and going to lower left. He is standing on the shadow of a tree, yet he is not casting a shadow. If the light is coming from behind him, why the big hi lite on his face?

Also under the car there are very bight sun spot areas. So the car has holes in it that allow the light to pass through and hit the ground?

Hi Mike,
I looked again at my image with your posting in mind. Let's say there is a lightning setup that will avoid shadows on the face of the guy on the photo. That also would avoid a shadow coming from the person because of the backlight.
But you are right with the very bright sun spots under the car. I will change that.

THANKS

derLitograph · #14 02-28-2008, 01:39 AM

Changed version!
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/5lqe-5-jpg.html

AdamZx3 · #15 02-29-2008, 11:37 AM

I like the image overall but agree it still needs tweaks.

The thing that pops out at me the most is the left tire....it's way to light, and needs to be darker. It's good how you toned down the highights on the ground but they need to be a solid coverage of shadow.

Here's a quick change I made in photoshop, I just added shadows to the ground and to the guy a bit to try and make him blend into the scene better, such as shadowing the part of the car he's leaning on. It's a bit rough and now pixelated, but this is what I would work towards to polish up the image.