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Old 11-09-2008, 07:44 PM
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Re: How is a selection rotated without the image

I didn't find how you could rotate the selection but I did find the following here :

Move the Border of a Selection Around a Photograph Move It a Lot
1) Make sure a selection tool is selected, but not the Selection Brush tool.

2) In the options bar, make sure New selection is selected.

3) Click inside the selection border, hold, and drag the selection border.

Selection Brush Tool Anomaly To move a selection border made with the Selection Brush tool:

1) Select another selection tool.

2) Select New selection in the options bar.

3) Click inside the selection border, hold, and drag the selection border.

Move It a Little You can fine-tune the position the selection border with the arrow keys.

Each press moves the selection border by one pixel.

If you press and hold Shift, the selection border will move in 10-pixel increments.......

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Plus more on the page/site
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Old 11-09-2008, 08:54 PM
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Re: How is a selection rotated without the image

Did you consider to upgrade to PE6?
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Old 11-09-2008, 09:22 PM
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Re: How is a selection rotated without the image

http://www.elementsvillage.com/forum...read.php?t=811



hello, I ususally create a 'levels' adjustment layer above...just to get the mask...click Ok without changing anyhting in the levels dialogue box. You can make a selection, move/distort any way you wish ( without getting that dreaded ' you can't do that...no pixels selected'''error while trying to do this on an empty layer) ...just transfer the selection to the layer you need it on then trash the levels adjustment layer afterwards. Also works with an overlay 50%grey fill layer.

I do this alot because i use the selection tools as guides for my image...I can transform a selection to any angle i need without disrupting my image below...then i just transfer the selection to my image to get the job done right.
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Old 11-11-2008, 08:53 PM
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Re: How is a selection rotated without the image

Here's the simple step by step answer to my own question for people like me just taking their baby steps.

Make a copy of the background
Select the area to be used as the patch
Right click anywhere and select Layer via Copy
Turn down the opacity in the layers palette
Select the move tool and position as needed
Select the eraser and remove the excess
Turn back up the opacity
Select Layer>Merge Down

I learned a lot from my mistakes in trying to implement the mask method(s) and I appreciate everyone's time and suggestions. I might find in the future that it has important advantages but for now this is simplest and gets the job done.

Thanks again

See my 11/27 post for the solution that truly works the way I expected.

Last edited by Hoover; 11-27-2008 at 08:11 AM. Reason: better solution
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:11 AM
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Re: How is a selection rotated without the image

You can't move a free transform bounding box without moving the contents. However, if you have a selection, marquee, you can move the selection marquee before you select transform. To do this, Press "Q" to enter the quick mask mode. Now press "Ctrl T" or "Cmd T" to select Free Transform. At this time, you are only transforming the quick mask area. You can move or rotate, or perform any transform operation that you like. When you are done, press enter to accept the transform. You will now still be in the quick mask mode, with your transformed quick mask. Press "Q" again to exit Quick mask. Your selection is now transformed to your new location. Maybe this will do what you want.

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Old 11-17-2008, 01:44 PM
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Re: How is a selection rotated without the image

You can get some add on tools for PE that includes a transform selection tool Here

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Old 11-19-2008, 08:34 PM
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Re: How is a selection rotated without the image

Thanks Dave. I'm to inexperienced at this to be familiar with quick mask. I tried what you suggested but I don't think the Q relates to quick mask in PE2 and I've just found it may relate to Sponge. I don't see it in power tools either. I have a ways to go yet in studying HP of PE2 so maybe I'll run into a quick tools discourse along the way.

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Old 11-27-2008, 06:31 AM
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Re: How is a selection rotated without the image

That's it! Quick Mask is the missing link to solving the riddle of turning a selection into essentially a cookie cutter. I used the one that comes with the free tool at HP because I couldn't figure out how to turn Grant's tool QM into a selection and back.
Here are the steps:
Copy the background
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Old 11-27-2008, 07:30 AM
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Re: How is a selection rotated without the image

That's it! Quick Mask is the final clue to solving the riddle of essentially turning a selection into a cookie cutter. I used the QM that comes with the free Hidden Power Tools because I couldn't figure out how to turn a mask into a selection and back using Grant's Tools.
Here are the steps:
Copy the background
Roughly Lasso the area to be patched
Select Windows>Welcome>Quick Mask - TO RUBYLITH
With Paint (air) Brush, adj hardness and paint white or black to fine tune the selection
Use the Move tool to drag and rotate to the area to be captured
Select Brush tool (just to exit move) and select TO SELECTION under Quick Mask
Under Edit, select Copy then Paste and Move the selection, rotating as needed, to the area to be patched
When finished - Layers>Merge Down

Last edited by Hoover; 11-27-2008 at 07:35 AM. Reason: punctuation
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