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Old 11-30-2008, 03:16 PM
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Trouble with hair selection

Below you can find a picture of a model in in a darker background..
Iam having trouble in removing the background without damaging the hairs..
Can anyone help me please..

http://i37.tinypic.com/33xzriw.jpg
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Old 11-30-2008, 05:46 PM
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Re: Trouble with hair selection

Quicktime movie may be a long download.. be patient..
http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov
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Old 12-01-2008, 01:12 AM
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Re: Trouble with hair selection

Thankyou..
But this image is with a bit of a similar background.. I already tried with that advance masking tutorial.. But not working.. Is there any other way to do out with this image?

http://i37.tinypic.com/33xzriw.jpg
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Old 12-01-2008, 04:50 AM
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Re: Trouble with hair selection

Dark hair on a dark background = NIGHTMARE.

The dark hair on the light parts = easy (check the channels)

Basically do the easy bits first, by looking at your Red channel, increasing contrast in it and that's half your mask (I suggest inverting it).

Then for the hair on the dark part of the bg, grab a brush and get painting!

Good luck.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:47 PM
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Re: Trouble with hair selection

Thanks.. Let me try out..
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:11 PM
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Re: Trouble with hair selection

To lesser degree, after following 0lBaldy's suggested video and DJSoulglo's input, perhaps cloning hairs of similar curvature to compensate those strands that are not maskable may also help...
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Old 12-02-2008, 05:06 PM
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Re: Trouble with hair selection

Thank you Vernon.. Normally i do these kind of cloning and painting works on most of these kind of images.. I just taught of getting an idea of of extracting it from the background without using these touch ups.. I appreciate all of you for taking taking time to reply me even though this is a bit of hard task.. lets find any one could bring out further ideas...
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Old 12-11-2008, 10:48 PM
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Re: Trouble with hair selection

Any chance you can create a 'clean' background image and then difference matte the two images? This'll mainly be possible if it was shot on sticks and you have access to the frames shot either side of this one. It won't be perfect but it may help...

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Old 12-11-2008, 11:56 PM
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Re: Trouble with hair selection

One thing that may seem kind of stupid, but always helps me, is to figure out FIRST exactly how much of the hair I need. Typically with shots i work on, we want some flowy hair, but we definately don't want all of it. It helps to make a duplicate layer, place a white layer below that, and just mask out parts of the hair until you get the shape/effect you want. It takes about 3 minutes. THEN, most of the time, i've cut my work by at least 25%.
It won't help you with the actual masking, but it can help you with the amount you have to do. I also agree with getting rid of the hard parts much as possible, and brushing hair back in.

Good luck freeze, you've got a busy couple of hours ahead of you,
RyRy
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Re: Trouble with hair selection

Thanks ryan..............
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