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Old 02-16-2009, 02:41 PM
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Re: Making fake hairs after cutting and pasting

Canna another smudge brush to try is one of trimoons brushes these are tool presets and the one is for softening edges i use it a lot

link to the brushes at the top of the page

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Old 02-16-2009, 02:41 PM
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Re: Making fake hairs after cutting and pasting

KR1156, well, how would you go about a cutout if you can't get a mask if subject and background don't have as much contrast as needed, even after enhancing the channels? A little smudge around the edges will at least soften the edge...what would be your workflow?
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Old 02-16-2009, 03:05 PM
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Re: Making fake hairs after cutting and pasting

basically i draw strands of hair in as needed, or use existing hair. i brush in, then blur to match surrounding natural hair, i add noise or grain, i use some natural hair for texture clipped to the drawn hair,,,,i do what ever it takes to make realistic hair...hair that has color variation, and the right focus, the right amount of transparency. i take note of drop shadows underneath where the hair may fall around it...

blurred or smudged brush strokes are exactly what they are....not hair.

if you look at your "drawn in hair" and for a milisecond think it doesn't look like real hair....it probably doesn't. start all over again. sounds like i'm being hypercritical....well i am.....strive for perfection in your images, not mediocrity.

*FYI......it's not easy. just like anitap said,,,,try maximize filter....sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't....you have to get creative.
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Old 02-16-2009, 05:34 PM
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Re: Making fake hairs after cutting and pasting

To find Maximum filter: Go to Filters--Other--Maximum. But first, blur the hair just a tiny bit or it won't do much. And yes, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I sometimes use it on drawn in eyelashes, too.
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:47 AM
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Palms

Many thanks for that link. It looks very interesting. I have downloaded it, but am not sure into which folder I should put it. I see it is a tpl file (rather than the abr files that I know are associated with brushes....). Could you kindly let me know where to put it please.

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Wow - that is a serious approach to making single strands of hair. I think I followed most of what you said okay. I've never added noise or grain to the hairs I've drawn in, nor have I clipped natural hair to the drawn hair - nor have I ever thought about shadows. A lot of stuff to think about trying, and some of it very new to me. It was great to read about it though. I really want to do it as well as I can, and will definitely experiment with your suggestions. Thank you so much for sharing.

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Thank you for elaborating! I will definitely give it a try.


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Old 02-19-2009, 09:46 AM
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Re: Making fake hairs after cutting and pasting

[QUOTE=Canna W;221794]Palms

Many thanks for that link. It looks very interesting. I have downloaded it, but am not sure into which folder I should put it. I see it is a tpl file (rather than the abr files that I know are associated with brushes....). Could you kindly let me know where to put it please.

here is a tut for you about loading them

http://asnailpace.com/blog/how-to-lo...brush-presets/

not sure if it is the right thing to do but i put the tpls files into the tools folder in photoshop

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Old 02-19-2009, 01:15 PM
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Palms...

Great. Thank you. I've tried them out and they seem excellent - especially when used with the fade tool (or you could lower the opacity of a duplicate layer) - either way you can soften the hair outline in a nice subtle way....
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Old 02-19-2009, 01:18 PM
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Re: Making fake hairs after cutting and pasting

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Great. Thank you. I've tried them out and they seem excellent - especially when used with the fade tool (or you could lower the opacity of a duplicate layer) - either way you can soften the hair outline in a nice subtle way....
You got it, that's what i do

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Old 02-20-2009, 01:54 PM
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Re: Making fake hairs after cutting and pasting

...and finally, an edit I just did.

I cut and pasted the figure into the background with no feathering. I then went round the edge of his overall hair shape with the smudge tool loaded with the Trimoon smudge preset. Then I painted in the hairs using a sarsa brush at 1 or 2 pixels. I am really pleased with how well your suggestions have worked out! I will use the other suggestions too - probably when working with bigger images.

Thank you again!
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:36 PM
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Re: Making fake hairs after cutting and pasting

looks good Canna, and thanks this has been a interesting thread with lots of good advice to look at

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