Putting a hat over a painted figure

[Canna W]

This is such a simple idea and simple image. I photographed a painted figure on the ground, then later decided to put a hat over his head, like it was lying on the ground, above his head. (I don't want the hat to look as though it is on his head, I want it to look on the ground.)

I don't know whether I have photographed the hat at the wrong angle, or whether I'm doing the hat shadow wrongly, or whether I need to do other tweaks, but I can't get the hat to sit properly on the ground above his head. (I've removed my efforts at doing a shadow here in case someone else kindly wants to have a go.) I think the hat looks really badly integrated into the image, and I'd be grateful for suggestions about what I could do to improve this.

[0lBaldy]

I think the proportions were off a little


Just some thoughts...

1) Reduced the hat size to fit the head (afterthought... tis still a bit big)

2) Painted smaller hat

3) Put painted hat on head like you did not want

(LOL, Keep hitting next in the preview to animate)

[Canna W]

Wow, that is so good!!! Can I say I take my hat off to you? I really love what you've done! The up and down is fun, but the hat on the head make a great pic in itself....

[MiningArt]

I thought because of the tilt of the hat it didn't look right. I just added a little more brim to the hat, helps some I think.

[Canna W]

I thought because of the tilt of the hat it didn't look right. I just added a little more brim to the hat, helps some I think.

Hi John, I think that is a huge improvement. I am going to try and re-photograph the hat more from your perspective... Many thanks for that.

[Canna W]

Okay - herewith my final version - I re-photographed the hat, putting it much lower down than it was before. I don't think it's as good as either of the above, but a) I couldn't just copy OlBaldy's brilliant interpretation (rampant plagiarism), b) My cutting and pasting and cloning just wasn't up to the standard of John's....

[lurch]

Um, Canna - he has his hat on backwards.

[0lBaldy]

Originally Posted by Canna W

I couldn't just copy OlBaldy's interpretation (rampant plagiarism)....

We just offered thoughts and/or suggestions for you to try if you wanted to... nothing else... It is your ideas, your picture and your work... think of the Forum thread sort of like an editor suggesting changes to a writers story... it is still the writers story!

If anything ... I blatantly plagiarized your work and just made some minor modifications as suggestions only..
It Is your idea and your final product.. we are here only for support and help.. not to lay any claim or credit

I am honored that you like what I suggested... thats good enough for me!

Go fer it! Git err done!!

[Dave.Cox]

Good job, OlBaldy!