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Old 08-05-2010, 02:14 PM
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Hair -cut out

Hi - I have a project that involves cutting out a lot of people from a variety of studio backgrounds. I have maintain a mask at the end of the process as I have some complex backgrounds to put the subjects into. Having tried a whole raft of plugins and techniques to no avail including the new cs5 refine edge tool and selection tool I am struggling to achieve a nice cutout in one go. I was wondering if anyone has developed a variation of the technique here: http://tv.adobe.com/watch/the-russel.../quick-select/ for CS5. I cant seem to find a way of using the history brush to selectively paint in the hair or the or body in the same manner as CS4....Appreciate any help....
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:28 PM
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Re: Hair -cut out

Marc, if you have a lot of flyway hair that is againsta complex background, you are not likely to obtain great results with the Refine Edge, but it depends upon the image. Calculations and layer blending is often a better solution. If you post some sample images here you are more likely to get some specific solutions.
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Old 08-06-2010, 12:30 AM
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Re: Hair -cut out

have you seen this?

Photoshop Top 40 #33 - Calculations
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Old 08-06-2010, 06:04 AM
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Re: Hair -cut out

Thanks Murray,
Here is a typical image of the kind I am dealing with.....it is a low res version but you get the idea....
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Marc, if you have a lot of flyway hair that is againsta complex background, you are not likely to obtain great results with the Refine Edge, but it depends upon the image. Calculations and layer blending is often a better solution. If you post some sample images here you are more likely to get some specific solutions.
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Old 08-06-2010, 06:05 AM
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Thanks for this - it looks like a good technique....quite a lot of work but I will give it a go....
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Old 08-06-2010, 09:02 AM
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Marc, if your backgrounds are gray as you have shown, then for many of your photos a fast and quick solution can be the use of the Blend-If controls in the Layer Style window. See attachments below, this takes less than 1 minute.
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Old 08-06-2010, 09:37 AM
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Re: Hair -cut out

Hi Murray - thanks for that - once you have done a blend if as your screenshots suggest then how do you create a mask from that....sorry if I am being a bit backward...
Only some of my backgrounds are grey - the rest are white but it would certainly help...
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Marc, if your backgrounds are gray as you have shown, then for many of your photos a fast and quick solution can be the use of the Blend-If controls in the Layer Style window. See attachments below, this takes less than 1 minute.
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Old 08-06-2010, 09:50 AM
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Re: Hair -cut out

If something like this is good enough for you, you could easily do it with (advanced) blending options. Takes just a couple of seconds :-).

Edit: You should take a little more effort in masking though ;-).
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Old 08-06-2010, 09:58 AM
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Re: Hair -cut out

Boy! That is quite something....I will have to play around a bit - not sure if i completely understand what you have done here but I will give it a go....
Thanks so much for the effort. Did you use the underlying layer with the blend if settings in your first post and then blend if using the red channel on the top layer with a layer mask to paint it in?
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If something like this is good enough for you, you could easily do it with (advanced) blending options. Takes just a couple of seconds :-).

Edit: You should take a little more effort in masking though ;-).
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Old 08-06-2010, 10:05 AM
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Re: Hair -cut out

The top layer is the background I wanted to add in this case.
Its blending mode is set to "Soft Light" (because of the almost neutral gray on your background). I then painted with black over the layer mask of the fill layer to get the blue from the areas I didn't want and used the luminance blending from the top layer to further enhance the mask by blocking out dark parts (hair) and light parts (skin) from the red channel of the original photo.

If you're still not sure, I'll do a quick video if you want to :-).
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