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How do I get my flames right?

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Old 11-22-2012, 09:51 PM
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How do I get my flames right?

Working on a composite right now where I have a car driving through a landscape with mountains on the background.

I added some backfire to the car, which are essentially flames on a perfectly black background. I applied the layer using screen blending mode and everything worked perfectly, until I increased the lightness of the background and the flames became too light.

You can see what happens here.

I upload a PSD file which demonstrates the problem using the relevant layers here. It's easy to use this file to test potential solutions.

Tried different ways of fixing it.. black layer behind it and masking it out didn't turn out nice and smooth.. applying the transparency using Calculations didn't look as nice as it did in the original...

HELP, I'm lost! How do I get my flames to look as nice as in the version with the dark mountains? Thanks!

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Old 11-22-2012, 11:16 PM
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Re: How do I get my flames right?

Remove black & blend normal + a mask for touch up
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:23 PM
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Re: How do I get my flames right?

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Remove black & blend normal + a mask for touch up
Thanks for your answer! It does look pretty close! However, it's not quite as good as the version with the darker mountains. If you or someone else knows how to achieve that look, I'd be more than happy to hear about it!
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:31 PM
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Re: How do I get my flames right?

What is the story about the dark mountain. You kind of lost me there.
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:41 AM
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Re: How do I get my flames right?

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What is the story about the dark mountain. You kind of lost me there.
You're right, I should have been more clear. In the original shot, the mountains in the background were a bit too dark for my taste. I wanted to add a little bit more depth in the image, so I lightened the mountains, to simulate a more foggy background. Hence the words 'dark mountains' (before) and 'light mountains' (after).

After several attempts and a lot of tweaking, I finally got it down I think. Made a copy of the flames inverted on Multiply blending mode, added a curve adjustment to get the colors and exposure right, did some masking etc. It's not the most efficient way, but it looks alright.
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:11 PM
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Re: How do I get my flames right?

I just use the magic eraser tool for flames, with the current settings.

Medium to hard edge on the brush. Set magic erasor to discontiguous, sampling once, tolerence around 60, protect foreground colour and pick something orange in the flames.

Way more versatile than just screen mode as you can set any mode you want after you do it this way, layer it etc. Here's a pic including the settings...

http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps5668eec8.jpg
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:33 AM
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Re: How do I get my flames right?

Why not just add a soft mask on the curves layer then duplicate the fire layer? or create a curve clipping mask over the fire layer? But if you think about it if there is a fire with a light background the fire really wont be as visible.
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