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Old 10-04-2013, 06:50 AM
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Joel Grimes blending technique...

I have a question about Joel Grimes retouching style... In his tutorials he explains the process, and it looks easy when he does it. Although it's obvious that he shoots models and background separately they blend together quite well in the final image.
I tried something similar, and it looks like I have a cardboard cutout in front of the background...
Apart from obvious ( similar lighting and perspective ) - is there another element that can help blend images together ? Here I meant something like glow from the background spilling over the model ( as Rebeca Saray sometimes does it ), or just a bit of grain to tie it all together ?
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Old 10-04-2013, 02:30 PM
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Re: Joel Grimes blending technique...

err, it seems it's too obvious but I don't see it...
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Old 11-08-2013, 07:34 PM
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Re: Joel Grimes blending technique...

I think in this example it's a bit hard because it's not obvious where the light is coming from. We can see the sun setting in the back, so what's lighting up the man? If it were me I would pick a side to make the light come from (or from whatever angle... up, down, anything) and play with that. Overall I think he should be darker so it looks more "evening" and then just work the highlights and it'll look awesome.

I hope that makes some sense I don't really know any technical terms :/
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Old 11-09-2013, 04:11 AM
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Re: Joel Grimes blending technique...

Thank you for your thoughts, and I do agree with you to some extent... It is important to suggest where light is coming from...
When looking at Joel Grimes work one doesn't really get the idea how the person is lit - there is so much light in the background that it looks obvious that some of the lights had to hit the subject as well.
Also, Joel sometimes makes it to look like person is lit by flash near to the camera ( as when mixing ambient light with flash that makes subject pop out, as it were ).

Here are another three shots I've done recently...
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Old 11-14-2013, 02:10 PM
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Re: Joel Grimes blending technique...

Just one observation there is alot of haloing in your mask very noticable in the third photo
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:08 PM
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Re: Joel Grimes blending technique...

@ Jason
Thanks for comment. You're right, there is... especially around head and shoulders, and legs... I was tempted to reduce the halo, but somehow it adds to surreal look I wanted to create... but you're right, I'll do version without halo as well...
I really want wacom tablet, doing this kind of work with a mouse it's like drawing with a bar of soap :-(
here is another piece...
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Old 12-20-2013, 11:03 AM
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Re: Joel Grimes blending technique...

Aside from what was previous mentioned, from what I've seen of Joel's images images is that the subject and background have been altered to blend the colors together. Probably lots of ways to do this, but they may include desaturation, a solid color layer set to color blend (or other blend mode) then toned down. Glyn Dewis just did a tutorial about taking the bg and creating a layer that averages the color of the entire layer, then applying that to the subject.
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:18 PM
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Re: Joel Grimes blending technique...

My 2 cents - When it gets darker colours desaturate. Sunset behind means shadow in front unless you can hint at another plausible light source. White airbrushed flare behind the arm is out of context. Sometimes just the scale and height of the skyscape can throw things out of whack so that maybe worth another look.
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:37 AM
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Re: Joel Grimes blending technique...

Joel uses photofilter layer, in order to even out the overal tone. I'll have to be careful with shadows and flares. As they say, devil's in details...
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Old 12-23-2013, 12:12 PM
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I don't like the Joel Grimes "cutting head" style...
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