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07-13-2005, 08:36 PM
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| | | Thank you Flora
That is exactly what I need, everytime I read your post, I always learned soemthing new. I will do it again
realaqu
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07-14-2005, 06:04 AM
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| | | Everyone seems to like Floras picture but is anyone a little disappointed with Floras instructions?
Hey! We got the starting picture and the finished picture and some rough instructions.
We could work through the steps together and maybe all learn something.
If anyone is interested I’ll start off with an attempt at Step1
(assuming you have downloaded mrstomeydaughter.jpg provided by Pixeltickler)
Step 1 – remove the texture
Download and install FFT from Floras link above.
Using the soft round brush (size 35) paint out the stars as in the attachment with black paint.
You should now have no texture showing on the picture.
OK. Anyone want to attempt step 2?
Don’t forget to post your settings then we can follow.
Ken. | 
07-14-2005, 11:55 AM
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| | | Here's another rendition with the skin tones changed to 8% cyan, 38% magenta, 40% yellow and 0 black.
Cheers
Dave | 
07-14-2005, 02:30 PM
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| | | Got it done and delivered... Hey, hey All,
Ok I got it done to my satisfaction more or less; Thanks to EVERYONE who posted! I mean it. There was a tear  in this dear lady's eye when I dropped this off this morning. It wasn't perfect, but I was indeed happy with the results. I used suggestions from EVERYONE. Following are the results I got. Bless you all, there is an amazing place in heaven for those that help just because they can.
Diane (the pixeltickler) | 
07-14-2005, 03:44 PM
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| | | Hi Diane,
Lovely picture, so glad to hear that the lady was pleased with your efforts, that surely makes it all worthwhile.
Glad we could help in some small way.
Gary. | 
07-14-2005, 03:59 PM
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| | Diane,
what you did is simply great! ... A great restoration and even greater kindness and consideration for the Lady!!! Dave,
It might be my monitor, but her skin looks a bit too 'yellow/orange' .... Ken,
nit-picking? .... Ok ... let's do it! Quote: |
Originally Posted by Cameraken Step 1 – remove the texture
Download and install FFT from Floras link above.
Using the soft round brush (size 35) paint out the stars as in the attachment with black paint.
You should now have no texture showing on the picture. | *.... After this I get a greyscale picture .... How do I get the colours back?
*When I run FFT I don't get an image like yours ... and I don't see any stars ... What am I doing wrong?
*Why do I get 'ringing' along the edges? ...
*There are so many 'stars' .... why paint black only six and those six ?
*I followed your instructions, but still have some texture in my picture ... can you explain why?
*After following your explanation my 'original' picture has disappeared ...
Etc. ....
....As you can see, 'detailed explanations' don't come easy ... but hey, how should I know .... I am the one with the disappointing " rough instructions" ...
One last thing ... Quote: |
We could work through the steps together and maybe all learn something.
| .... and if there were no steps, or, in my opinion, the instructions available were 'rough' ... I learnt by making my own steps ....
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07-14-2005, 04:07 PM
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| | | Excellent job Diane! I think you've got the original colouring spot on! | 
07-14-2005, 10:24 PM
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| | | Great job, Diane,
That is the reason why I love retouchpro. not just because I got so many great teachers in here and learned a lot from them, but also enjoy staying with those true warm hearted people.
bless your friend
Realaqu | 
07-15-2005, 02:29 AM
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| | | I came in too late on this thread to submit my version. The story touched me deeply. Congratulations, Diane, for the excellent restoration.
Lorraine | 
07-15-2005, 10:58 AM
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| | | Flora Thanks Flora. OK I learnt my lesson. But is seemed like a good idea in this particular thread with a good hi-res picture to work from, and a few contributors who seemed to know what they were doing. I did think about problems like you mentioned but thought I could refer back to byRo’s tutorial for the FFT and then your tutorial for the fading. After that I may have learned from someone else as I get stuck.
The whole point was to try and work through this without your help and make everyone think about the next step.
I am coming here to learn. At the moment my ambition is to equal your work. But I won’t stop there.
One question.
I have posted my picture (which I am fairly happy with) but I had several goes at this. If I repair the picture in CMYK (replacing the damaged cyan channel with the Yellow) then her blouse comes out Pink But if I do it in RGB and repair the damaged Blue channel with Green then her blouse is Yellow. Why the bid difference? And how do you know what is correct?
Duv works in CMYK but got the blouse orange.
Ken. | 
07-15-2005, 11:55 AM
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| | | ken,
rather than replacing the various channels, you might try something like the channel mixer tool and simply adjust each channel in a mix and match fashion.
Craig | 
07-15-2005, 12:33 PM
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| | | ken
I try to practiced with your image, with one color balance layer and one selective color layer. try to remove those green aruond her hair on the mask of selective adjustment layer. the last step is some regular adjustment like contrast and her eyes, teeth etc.
realaqu
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07-15-2005, 12:46 PM
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| | | Kraellin
Thanks for that suggestion. Its amazing how much there is in photoshop. Replacing a complete channel is a bit drastic and I’ve just had a play with the channel mixer and I can virtually repair the channel. That’s one for the memory Bank. Thanks.
I’ve been playing around quite a lot with these faded photos recently. I was under the impression that if the photo had faded uniformly then a simple colour adjustment would put everything right. But this clearly is not the case. I suppose that the different coloured photo dyes must fade differently.
Looking at this photo the face and the blouse are fairly similar so if you make the face pinkish then it makes sense to me that the blouse could be fairly pinkish.
I remember you mentioned the channel mixer in the ‘Ghostly image’ thread that Deadants posted. That was a great picture I was convinced there was a dog in that picture until Flora decided it was a plant. (I wasn’t an active member then)
I’ve just found this posted by Stroker
“Variation that someone once referred to as 'Interactive Channel Mixer'. Wish I could remember whom I heard this from.
Start a new Layer Set.
Cut and Paste G and B into the Set.
Right-click Set > Layer Set Properties.
Turn off G and B channels.
You can now mix G and B into R in any manner that you want.
Blending modes, Opacity, and any adjustment layers that strike yer fancy.
Why, you can even lower the Opacity of the Set itself.
Takes practice and some fiddling, but it's a fairly solid technique with tweaks galore”
Ken. | 
07-15-2005, 12:56 PM
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| | | Realaqu
No problem play away. I have done this with NO selective areas and No painting (except the mark on her nose and 2 spots of blue in the background)
All I did was replace the yellow channel then adjust with curves
What do you think of the colour?
Ken. | 
07-15-2005, 01:06 PM
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| | | Ken
The color is great, I just thought the picture looks a little bit flat.
realaqu |
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