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Old 08-18-2005, 08:52 PM
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Question Making Thin Lips Fuller

Does anyone know of a good tutorial that shows how to make a thin lip fuller?
I found some good ones on enhancing color, but none that have been good for making lips fuller.

I tried bloating the upper lip, but it just looks terrible. I also tried copying and pasting the upper lip in another layer and moving it up 10px and cloning in the missing bits, but that looks terrible as well.

This link is to a PSD of the file I am working with:
http://www.mbstia.com/testing/biggerlips.psd
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:19 PM
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rnb,

it's really not much of a job. in paint shop pro 9 (dont know about 8, but 7 doesnt have this), you can use the warp mesh tool. i think this is somewhat equivalent to the liquify tool in PS. i made a tight, small mesh and simply adjusted the mesh points around the upper lip. hit apply. then i did it one more time because of the way the tool works and it didnt get all i wanted the first time. after that, i simply cleaned up the edges a bit with push and clone.

is this what you wanted?

Craig

edit: it's a bit uneven, but the idea comes across, i think.

you could also just paint, clone, push, or smudge them from scratch to achieve a similar effect. i just like using the warp tool
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:26 PM
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Craig,

Yes, that's exactly what I am after.
I've never made a mesh in PS CS2. I will have to do some reading up on how to better use the Liquify tool. When I did it, I used the bloat tool and it just looked hideous!

Thanks for having a go at the lips.

If I were to use the clone tool, how do I get a good definition of the lip outline? Should I still copy the upper lip portion onto a different layer and move it up?

Still working on it...
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:41 PM
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the warp mesh is a bit easier for stuff like this than the clone, but, if you do want to use the clone, borrow from the lower lip. set the opacity of the brush fairly low to start and just dab in one place till you see what it's going to look like. by dabbing in the same place you'll get more and more cloned image showing up and it wont smudge that way. remember, once you set the clone tool, that point is ALWAYS the reference point until you set it again. so, even if you move the brush after laying clone in one spot, even if you come back later to that same spot you will be cloning on the same part you were at the start, as long as you dont move the reference point by resetting the point.

build things up how you want them and dont worry too much about if you're not getting a perfect shape on the top lip. you just want the color and texture to be there in the right amounts. oh, and it would be best to do this on a separate layer, over the original.

once you have color and texture there, you can clean up the edges two ways if you used a layer for the cloned parts. you could simply use the eraser and erase parts to get your final lip edge, or, you could use a high opacity smudge or a low opacity push, or even a clone, cloning from the skin above the upper lip.

it's pretty straight-forward. i dont know what PS CS2 uses. i know they have liquify and i would guess some others. yes, bloat sounds wrong it just sounds wrong. dont ya wish there was a botox tool?

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Old 08-18-2005, 09:57 PM
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Craig,

Thanks so much for taking the time to explain the procedure to me.

Yes, I wish there was a Botox and a Collagen tool... perhaps I should tell the PS Development team... ha ha!
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:36 PM
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you're welcome. i hope you got the results you wanted.

how's your music going?

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Old 08-18-2005, 10:40 PM
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Yeah I am still working on it.

Music is going good. Been finishing up my voiceover and film work and will be working on my new album full-time in late Oct. Hope to have a Spring/Summer '06 release and be on the road again. I miss touring!

Thank you for asking
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:43 PM
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that's great! what's the voiceover and film?

oh, and i did this a while back, but never posted it...

Craig
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:03 PM
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that's great! what's the voiceover and film?

oh, and i did this a while back, but never posted it...

Craig

Oh wow Craig! That looks so moody! I love it!

As for the voiceover stuff... things like radio identity (you are listening to WKKS at the midnight hour...), commercial voice overs, public service announcements, dialects, valley girl accents and cartoon voices... all that stuff. It's a nice sideline for voice talent and I really like doing it. The Film work has been composing songs for film (and TV). I get given thematic concepts, scripts or raw footage and I write songs based on the imagery. Some of it is just filler stuff and vocalizations etc., others are entire songs. I have also been doing some acting, but really Indie stuff... still building my reel and my courage!

What have you been up to lately?
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:10 PM
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I had a go at the lips with the liquify tool, it's a bit of trial and error but it can be done.
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