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08-19-2005, 11:36 AM
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| | | Help please!!! Hello I'm real new to restoration an was wondering what software to get. Is it harder to work with photoshop or paintshop or painter as far as restortations. I have photoshop but I've never used it for this. I have a painting of my aunt when she was 3 that has been through a fire. I tried but it didn't look too good. If anyone can help me, thanks in advance | 
08-19-2005, 01:58 PM
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| | welcome to RP, oly19.
interesting picture and cute little girl. lots of stuff that had to be handled here.
i started with the Fast Fix filter plugin, just to get things started. reduced the saturation to 0 and tweaked the contrast and brightness a bit.
frankly, i dont recall all the steps. one was a new, blank raster layer. i used it to paint whites and blacks to lighten some things up and darken others down. i also used this layer to paint out the corner damage.
i also had a duplicated layer of the fast fix layer in which i masked some areas to lighten and darken, mostly the background.
got it to a semi-decent state and flattened all.
from there it was fine tuning. lots of little smudge, clone and push tweaks to clean up edges.
and that's the basics of it. there were some adjustment layers with curves and levels and contrast/lightness, but i forget where all i had them.
in darkening the bright area in the middle of her dress i did sacrifice some detail.
also, one interesting item is the shoe. it appears to have been painted in.
Craig | 
08-19-2005, 04:28 PM
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| | Hi oly19,
Welcome to RP!
I used Photoshop to restore your picture/painting.
I used Selective Colors to remove the burnt yellow, then, contrary to Craig, I used Levels, Color Balance and Hue/Saturation trying to keep and enhance the original colour.
I used Neat Image (can be downloaded free here) to remove a bit of 'noise'
USM to sharpen a bit and finally darkened the edges with a soft blue vignette. Craig,
... you eliminated her beautiful ribbon.... | 
08-19-2005, 04:36 PM
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| | | Oh!! That was a bow! I thought it was a rip in the photo *lol* Good work Flora! | 
08-19-2005, 04:39 PM
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| | | Hello and welcome!
Here is my shot at it using Photoshop7. I'm not really happy with it----I don't think the skin tones are right. And I was about halfway through coloring when I realized just how big a problem the bands running through the scan were. Should have gone back and started over at that point but.... <G>
Anyway, I thought this was a great picture and whatever program you decide to use to restore it, well worth any time it may take you. I think you said it was a painting, not a photograph? I wondered if it was an actual painting or a hand painted photograph.
Craig's restoration efforts were better than mine---as I said I got in a hurry. Basically I just copied the red channel and did some clean up on it, mostly with the healing brush. Then I recolored it using layers. I used a very soft brush and was not real careful with edges. I was going for the hand painted photo look. What I found though was that the color accentuated the bands of light and dark so I went back after the fact and tried to deal with them using a combination of the healing brush, blur tool and curves.
Flora, I too noticed was that Craig decided that it was a tear not a bow. I thought the same thing at first, that it was damage then decided at a closer look that it was a bow....or that if it was a tear, it made a great bow!
I would be interested in seeing your final result oly19. Good luck!
Bill
Last edited by Billfields; 08-20-2005 at 05:48 AM.
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08-19-2005, 04:56 PM
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| | | You guys are good I couldn't get it near that! I'll be using those tecniques for sure. Thanks. If there is anyting else you would like to add Thanks again in advance. Where can I get the fast fix plug in? | 
08-19-2005, 05:36 PM
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| | oly19 ... The most important thing I have learned about Photoshop, PSP or whatever package you use ... is that there is always more than one way of doing things ... and that the good folks here on the forum will be happy to show you ...
So keep coming back with any questions and problems you may have . | 
08-19-2005, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Caitlin Oh!! That was a bow! I thought it was a rip in the photo *lol* Good work Flora! | Me, too, Caitlin!!
Maureen | 
08-19-2005, 05:48 PM
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| | I'll remember that, and I thank all of you for the help. I'll make sure to have regular visites to this beautiful forum | 
08-19-2005, 09:42 PM
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| | | a bow. crap. i saw that when i had the image zoomed in so i didnt catch the full outline. nice catch, flora. i'll be sure to reimburse him his full payment. seems i missed a couple more things here; one, that it was a painting, so, ergo the 'painted shoe'. and two, the color. sloppy. the color wouldnt really have mattered, though, i would have taken this one back to grays anyways. i'm not trying to colorize yet; too much else to learn, like, seeing bows.
Craig | 
08-20-2005, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Kraellin a bow. crap. i saw that when i had the image zoomed in so i didnt catch the full outline. nice catch, flora. i'll be sure to reimburse him his full payment. seems i missed a couple more things here; one, that it was a painting, so, ergo the 'painted shoe'. and two, the color. sloppy. the color wouldnt really have mattered, though, i would have taken this one back to grays anyways. i'm not trying to colorize yet; too much else to learn, like, seeing bows.
Craig |
Yeah, well I'm with you on this one, too, Craig!
Maureen | 
08-20-2005, 03:52 AM
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| | Thanks everybody!!!
...After reading all the posts, I really started having doubts about the bow .... Bill,
I also realized how bad the scan bands were well into my restoration ... | 
08-20-2005, 06:40 AM
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| | Flora, stand firm, don't let them sway you...it WAS a bow. (And if not it is now, at least in our worlds---ever watch Bob Ross' painting shows? It's your world, add a happy little bow!)
I saw those bands right off in the original but then when I copied the red channel and started I thought that had eliminateed them on the girl, they only seemed evident in the background there. Until I started adding color then I realized they still ran through everything. For both good and bad, I suppose color can bring out details.
Bill | 
08-20-2005, 06:58 AM
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| | | No, no! I wasn't for a second suggesting it wasn't a bow! It certainly is! Just that I wasn't very observant! *lol* | 
08-20-2005, 07:36 AM
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| | | sorry bout that. i think it's a bow too. i was just saying 'crap' as in, 'how did i miss that?'. i think my reading glasses need reading glasses.
Craig |
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