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Old 01-09-2006, 11:54 AM
eaglssong eaglssong is offline
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Again, I am totally amazed at what can be done, and I am beyond grateful for the help I am recieving here.

Thanks again!!

Anne
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Old 01-09-2006, 02:21 PM
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eaglssong,

welcome to RP

i've looked at your picture and found one thing that pretty much MUST be done before anything else! whomever taped the parts of the image back together did something fairly common when doing so... they goofed. it's not a big goof, but happens a LOT with these images. the two halves were NOT put back together correctly. the lower half is a tiny bit too low and slightly offset to the right.

now, you can do color corrections and contrast corrections and all those types of actions beforehand if you wish. you could even do cmyk or lab conversions. but, no one shld do any time of cloning, healing, smudging, pushing, noise filtering, heal, clone stamp or any of those types of actions UNTIL the two halves are lined back up correctly! to do otherwise will throw things off quite a bit. i wouldnt even do channel separation until the halves were lined up correctly again, UNLESS that was ALL you were going to use, one or more of the channels and ONLY if the channels being used were rejoined first!

as for the smaller image of the little girl, i actually found more detail in the original image and even able to get enough of her eyes to at least know where they are in the image. but, more detail than that is going to be difficult without a higher resolution scan or a very high resolution picture of the original (with VERY good lighting).

normally, i'd probably work on and do an image like this when posted in the forums, but i'm currently tied up with another image that is driving me nuts. so, i just did a cursory look at this and a tiny bit of correction work, mainly with splitting the image and putting it back together correctly and with the image of the little girl. so, i'm only posting hints and tips on this one currently.

so, again, welcome to RP and i'm sure others will be along to help out here

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Old 01-09-2006, 03:43 PM
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Though it can a bit scary I always remove tape from my old images before scanning them. Usually it is gummy or oily and can be removed with no damage to the photo. It is aways a risk. but I have never had any problems at all. It the photo tears a bit, is it really worse off then it was before? I always retape the photos on the back. In any case, remove at your own discretion...
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Old 01-09-2006, 04:04 PM
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Thanks Robin, but I think trying to remove the tape will be a very last resort. It's been on there for so long that I'd be terrified to even attempt to remove it.

Anne
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Old 01-09-2006, 04:35 PM
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Hi Anne.
Welcome to Retouch Pro.

I had a go. Everything in my picture is from the original except the face of the girl in the centre. Still not perfect but a lot better.

If this were my picture then I would make a really good scan and then I would also have a go at removing the tape. When tape yellows like this it usually gets very brittle and comes off very easy. Sometimes the glue is left on the print but even if that happened you are still no worse off. I do not think you will spoil the print by trying.

Notice the backdrop. These were usually 9ft wide and were difficult when there was a large group. The camera had to be moved back to accommodate the group and then the top of the background would be on the photo. It is very unusual for a pro photographer to send a print out like this. Usually it would have been trimmed off.

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Old 01-09-2006, 05:50 PM
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just had a quick look at the damaged strip itself after lining it up, and there is quite a lot hidden within in it. I've duplicated the strip several times on multiplying layers, and the details and outlines do start to come out
You can then start to cut these details in as I have done with some of the image below. I haven't cloned or guessed any details in this one. Just used burn on shadows to pull them out after flattening image and multiplying layers
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Old 01-09-2006, 06:17 PM
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The only thing I can say at this point is WOW!!!

While all these efforts are just wonderful, Chris, you have allowed me to see a glimpse of what my ancestors really looked like. I didn't think it was possible. I have no words to thank all of you for what you are doing.

Anne
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Old 01-10-2006, 02:55 AM
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Hi,

Anne,


Welcome to RP!

Quite 'the' challenge your picture!!!

Great job everybody!!!

Like Chris, I concentrated on trying to 'see' what was under the tape since, ever so faint, I could still make out some details ....

After rearranging the image so that "the two halves were put back together correctly." as Craig has pointed out, I selected the tape only, used Apply Image, and Levels, Hue/Saturation and Selective Colors Adjustment Layers .... and was surprised at the amount of details that were uncovered ....

* In Attachment 1 my result after working on the 'tape' only ....

* In Attachment 2 my restoration of the little girl with what I saw as a ribbon on the top left side of her head ....
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Old 01-10-2006, 03:11 AM
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Top job as always flora . I was undecided about the ribbon/flower in the hair, as it clashed with the crease of the arm of the gentleman behind. I think there should be enough detail within the taped area to make a good restoration, on a high res scan. It surprised me how much detail could still be found under the tape
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Old 01-10-2006, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by chrishoggy
It surprised me how much detail could still be found under the tape
Good morning All,

Hey, nobody is more surprised than I am. When I posted this photo, I wasn't even sure that it could be rescued. Flora, I'm in complete shock at what you've managed to do. In fact, I'm in complete shock at what ALL of you have done.

Thank you so much. I'm not sure which I'm enjoying more.... actually seeing my ancestors, or seeing what can be done when you know what you're doing.

Anne
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