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Old 02-15-2006, 10:17 AM
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removing Digitalback-Moiré in a trouser.

hi,

any idea how i could remove a digitalback produced moiré?

its in a piece of texture, a trouser. green.
i used selective color but it wont dissapear i tried all channels

if i use blur it gets too soft.

i installed the Phase One De-Moiré. but i cant find it in PS CS2. maybe its for PS 7 only.

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Old 02-15-2006, 10:33 AM
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Pure,
It all depends on the nature of the Moire, what solution will be most effective.
Can you post the image?
Regards, Murray
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Old 02-15-2006, 10:37 AM
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yes

finally discovered why the filter demoirize is not available: i have 2 folders in my PS. "Plug-ins" and german "Zusatzmodule".

so i try this PhaseOne Filter now, ok?

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Old 02-15-2006, 10:49 AM
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Convert To Lab

Well I improved it some. I converted the file to lab and then used surface blur (Radius-15 and Threshold-38) on both the a and b channels.
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Old 02-15-2006, 10:52 AM
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ok phil, fine result,
only the original color is gone, which should be preserved.

i tried the Demoirize plugin, it works, but the curves formerly known as moiré are now a little bit darker curves as the trouser.

hm.
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Old 02-15-2006, 10:54 AM
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Hi Pure,
you are very fortunate with this image because the Moire pattern is in the color, not in the lightness. Convert the image to LAB. Apply a Gaussian Blur of 20 to both the A and B channels. That's all.
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Old 02-15-2006, 11:08 AM
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Pure, was the original color green or tan?
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Old 02-15-2006, 11:16 AM
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green,

i cant convert it, sorry. i am in RGB and have dozens of layers here, so i am always afraid of converting a high res image to LAB back.

i tried the selective color method and reduced it a bit, then i applied the filter "decrease noise" (translated from german? in german its "störungen reduzieren")

that made it. not perfect but nicer than it was before.

i dont know any better method in the moment to preserve the original color.

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Old 02-15-2006, 11:24 AM
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Demoirize Filter

thanks for your help though. i appreciate.

the "Demoirize Filter"
actually if you want to give it a try, its free and very good:
Demoirize Filter from Phase One. sorry doesnt have the URL by hand..

i would like to know why the Demoirize Filter doesnt work mostly. its greyed out. if i select the backgroundimage, it works. and this very good. but selecting any other layer is helpless. its greyed out, i cant select it in Filters palette.

any idea? maybe someone who has it?
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Old 02-15-2006, 11:31 AM
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Pure,
I understand your concern about converting multilayers to LAB - some may not survive the transition. What about Ctrl + Alt + Shift + E to make a composite layer. Copy it into a new image, convert to LAB and paste the result back into your master.

As for the color problem, there are other ways to get rid of the Moire but still using LAB.

Just use the L channel and discard the A&B. Add a new blank layer, fill it with a color, change the layer blend mode to color.

You might be able to get rid of the Moire in RGB by doing some Channel blending but this will be a lot more effort.

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Old 02-15-2006, 12:00 PM
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Have you tried a 50% soft brush with the color you want and blending mode COLOR?

I think it could give something nice.

I'll try.
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Old 02-15-2006, 12:02 PM
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Yeap, it works, 15 seconds job

1. Use the brush size 100 pixels
2. Adjust blending mode to COLOR
3. Adjust opacity to 50%
4. Use the color picker to pick the color you wish.
5. Paint over the moire
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Last edited by studioj; 02-15-2006 at 12:06 PM. Reason: adding procedure
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Old 02-15-2006, 12:08 PM
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this is very, very simple and fast.

duplicate the background layer.
add a new blank raster layer above the duplicate.
pick a color matching the part you want. in this case, a somewhat darker color of the greenish pants.
fill the blank raster layer with that color. 100% opacity. 100% density.
set this raster layer to blend mode 'color' or 'color L' (the color L is specific to paint shop pro and the L means legacy).

merge all layers and save.

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Old 02-15-2006, 12:09 PM
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mistermonday your right, i forgot to mix down and do LAB. sorry.
i tried it, but i couldn follow your method.


i am trying studios method now. seems to be very good from reading, i understand. now practicing it..

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Old 02-15-2006, 12:13 PM
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kraellin, what is a raster layer?
you mean a full blank layer?
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