Photo Restoration - - Saleen Mustang and model...Processing Defect!

PhotoGuyJames · #1 03-12-2006, 11:14 PM

see if you can try and fix this mess!

-James Carden

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ot18/41889.jpg

bart_hickman · #2 03-13-2006, 12:09 AM

Healing, cloning. 2nd attachment is with noise reduction.

Bart

studioj · #3 03-13-2006, 08:37 AM

It's this copyrighted?

Can we publish our results?

Jeronimas · #4 03-13-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by studioj

It's this copyrighted?

Can we publish our results?

It just so stupid, I can show you like 10k post, where noone cares if this is copyrighted, no knwo will hunt for this

PhotoGuyJames · #5 03-13-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bart_hickman

Healing, cloning. 2nd attachment is with noise reduction.

Bart

beautiful job man..but you forgot the sky!!! cant you see the where the film bent and stuck and you can see the little holes. otherwise very nice!

PhotoGuyJames · #6 03-13-2006, 12:25 PM

and yes the image Is copyrighted by me! but you have permission to post that you worked on the image as long as you post my name next to it as the copyrigth owner and photographer. thank you

-James R Carden

bart_hickman · #7 03-13-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PhotoGuyJames

beautiful job man..but you forgot the sky!!! cant you see the where the film bent and stuck and you can see the little holes. otherwise very nice!

Doh! Well now that you mention it, I did see that stuff up there, but I thought it was some sort of intentional silkscreen overlay or something like that. I didn't know if this is the whole picture or just part of it. When I get home tonight from my real job, I can tweak it up real quick.

Bart

byRo · #8 03-13-2006, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by studioj

It's this copyrighted?
Can we publish our results?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeronimas

It just so stupid, I can show you like 10k post, where noone cares if this is copyrighted, no knwo will hunt for this

Let's try and clear this up. I'll tell you the way I see it......

Even though an image is copyrighted there is a thing to be considered called "fair use".

This was invented to allow you to quote passages, publish excerpts from somebody's work for reference / academic purposes.

I have always regarded RetouchPRO as purely academic site - there are no ad's here, nobody earns any money etc...

That said, there are not too many problems in posting images in the threads (though I would shudder to see anything from D_i_s_n_e_y)

Now what you CANNOT do is take something that was posted here, and post on YOUR site without full permission - because that would constitute comercial use.

Hope I got that right (Doug?)

BTW - there is a very stong blue cast on the image that needs to be taken care of.

Rô

bart_hickman · #9 03-13-2006, 02:18 PM

Here's a link to the horse's mouth--section 107 of U.S. Copyright law.

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#107

Seems like you're pretty safe posting things here assuming it's for eductional purposes. I noticed that the tutorial rules for this website say you should get permission from any photo owners, but the fair use clause seems to imply a tutorial would be considered fair use. Of the four considerations given in section 107, it is my understanding that #4 is the most important--ie., how much financial damage is there if any?

Bart

studioj · #10 03-13-2006, 03:18 PM

Cool, a great explanation for a simple question. I'm always worried about copyrights, LOL, I'm a mexican worried about copyrights, you should see what we publish here, and even for commercial purposes.

Well, all it's ok then, BTW.- I love that car and wouldn't matter the picture, if it where yellowish, old or damaged... it still will be a very nice car

byRo · #11 03-13-2006, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bart_hickman

..... I noticed that the tutorial rules for this website say you should get permission from any photo owners, but the fair use clause seems to imply a tutorial would be considered fair use.....

Tutorial images, and also images used for Contests get seen a lot more than images in threads.
Tutorials are often printed, and may get passed around outside the confines of RetouchPRO.
Contest images were planned to be used in the member's site.

Thus it is best if these more "visible" images have the proper consent.

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Originally Posted by studioj

Cool, a great explanation for a simple question. I'm always worried about copyrights, LOL, I'm a mexican worried about copyrights, you should see what we publish here, and even for commercial purposes.

Cooler still is that I'm posting this from Brazil (world hacker champs)

..and the blue cast, any takers?

Rô

bart_hickman · #12 03-13-2006, 05:16 PM

This is where I'm pretty bad. How do you know it's got too much blue cast? I mean, I can see the photo is mostly bluish, but how does one know what the "correct" color balance is? Is there some rule you are following?

Bart

Ed_L · #13 03-13-2006, 05:19 PM

I was gonna take a shot at that one, but I looked at it for over an hour. I couldn't see anything wrong with it.

Ed

byRo · #14 03-13-2006, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bart_hickman

How do you know it's got too much blue cast? I mean, I can see the photo is mostly bluish, but how does one know what the "correct" color balance is? Is there some rule you are following?

It's a pretty safe bet that the car is white, and not light blue. Also, the young lady (unless she is a parent of NancyJ) probably does not have blue skin.

To measure.
- Select the eye-dropper (<I>) and turn on the info palette (<F8>).
I find measuring colours in LAB to be much easier so I'll cite the numbers that way.
- For a white car the A and B numbers should be 0. Running the eye-dropper over the car, however, the numbers come out negative - B more so than A. B negative means Blue.
- Going over the young lady's skin (respectfully, of course

) we find that the B value is lower than the A value - for "normal" skin B would usually be 5 to 10 points higher than A.

The more difficult part is that the colour cast is not even, the dark parts have a higher cast.

To fix:
- Convert to LAB mode (of course?

);
- Duplicate the layer and desaturate (<Ctrl><Shift><U>);
- Put in an eye-dropper point at the lightest part of the car, around 95%, and the darkest, 65%;
- Adjust using curves (or levels) the white point to 95% and black to 65%, invert (<Ctrl><I>) - this is now our mask for the colour fix. Turn this layer off (everything will be applied at 65% and nothing at 95%);
- Make a curves adjustment layer and Image>Apply Image.. to put the mask we just made into adjustment layer mask;
- Adjust the A and B curves until the eye-dropper point you set at 65% is reading 0 for both channels (95% already is 0)

All done - as a check the skin is now reading with B about 10 above A.

Rô

Cameraken · #15 03-13-2006, 06:30 PM

Mustang sally

Hi James.

Welcome to Retouch Pro.

Quite a strange fault on the film there. It looks like the film has torn.

Repaired the marks
Removed the blue from the mid-tones (This gave Sally a very tanned look but I decided to keep it)
Degrunged Sally only.
Sharpened

Oh. If only you had posted this earlier. I would have used her in the March Comp.
Maybe I would have had to let the tyres down.

Ed. So did I.

Ken