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Old 06-22-2006, 11:48 PM
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Yes please post the steps. It's torcher posting great work and not showing the steps. We're here to help each other right? lol Davis you have a nice post too. Mind sharing the steps?
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Old 06-23-2006, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Flora
Would be difficult for anyone to help not knowing which new program the moderator suggested .....

The moderator is 'moi' .... and talking about Neat Image, most of the time, its default settings (which I guess were what you used) are even a bit too strong for my taste, but this picture is surely an extreme case ....
There you have it - a true master in action. Flora that retouch is brilliant

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Old 06-23-2006, 07:15 AM
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Here's my attempt:

http://www.sendefladen.dk/dpreview/tiger_noise.jpg

Flora: I can't upload images - I'm on a Mac and I tried with both Safari and FireFox. I followed the guide you wrote, but when I have selected the image on my HD and choose upload, the upload just hangs

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Old 06-23-2006, 07:26 AM
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One step further:

http://www.sendefladen.dk/dpreview/tiger_noise2.jpg

;-)

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Old 06-24-2006, 08:34 AM
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skydog, tigerphoto, megl

thank you so much for your great comments!!!

... sorry to keep you waiting... was out the whole day yesterday!

megl,

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Flora: I can't upload images - I'm on a Mac and I tried with both Safari and FireFox. I followed the guide you wrote, but when I have selected the image on my HD and choose upload, the upload just hangs
... I see both your picture are over 150KB in size ... the limit for attachments to posts or threads here at RP is 100KB ... (200KB for the Gallery).. so I guess that was the reason of your problem attaching them!!

Great work!! I love the bronze cast on your 'One step further' version

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... Ok.. here is what I did with this picture:

Brightening the image:

1) Duplicated the background
2) Ctrl+I Inverted the duplicate (now it's nearly white!)
3) Changed the Blending of the inverted duplicate to Overlay
4) duplicated the Overlay Layer twice more.
5) created a Hue/Saturation Adjustment Layer to improve colours and saturation a bit.
6) Merged visible (*)
Result after these procedures in Attachment 1

(*) Merge Visible:

Keeping the Alt key pressed, open your Layers Palette's Menu and, click on 'Merge Visible'.

A new Layer containing all your corrections will be created on top of all the other Layers ....

This procedure enables you to carry on with your restoration from your advanced point... without losing any of the previous steps/Layers... thus giving you the possibility to retrace your steps and making changes wherever necessary.... even after you've 'finished' the job....


Minimizing the noise

I have the Plug-in version of Neat Image so did everything inside Photoshop, but if you work with the free standalone program do the following:

1) Save a 'flattened' copy of your 'up to now' restored image, but keep your working PS original open and ready...
2) Open the saved flattened copy in Neat Image. (in Neat Image, click on the 'Noise Filter Settings' tab, then go to Tools and click on Advanced Mode)

Neat Image comes with several 'Preset' Settings...Attachment 2

For normal 'noisy' images, until you get familiar with it and create and save your own settings, the 'Default' Setting is a good start ... To change the result, (in most cases, the Default Settings are much too strong for my taste and tend to give an unnatural 'plastic' look to the whole image, but particularly to skin) simply start playing/experimenting by moving the Noise Levels' and 'Noise Reduction Amounts' sliders found on the rightmost part of the window.. (one at the time so you can see the difference they make individually!) ...

For this extremely noisy image, Neat Image Default Setting made very little difference, so, I simply pulled all the 'Noise Levels' and 'Noise Reduction Amounts' sliders completely to the right, then carefully pulled back some of them to leave a bit of noise in the image.. (the skin looks fine, but the background is a bit too soft ... no problem we will correct that Attachment 3

3) Save the noise corrected copy, open it in PS, Shift+drag it on top of your 'waiting and ready' PS working original to continue working on it, and close your noise corrected copy..
4) Create a white Layer mask for the noise corrected Layer and, with a soft black brush (Opacity 30%) paint around the model to bring back some of the 'rougher' texture of the underlying Layer ... This to correct the excessive 'softness' of the background and make the image look more natural.
My Mask for the Layer Attachment 4

Well, after this it's up to you to decide how much or how little you want to do to finish your restoration ...

My new final result Attachment 5

Hope this helps...

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Old 06-24-2006, 09:54 AM
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Thanks Flora

I did not know the invert overlay brighten trick. Does a much better job then screen or straight curves. I am glad you take the time for us. I often just get there and have no idea how to explain.

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Old 06-24-2006, 10:06 AM
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Thank you for your kind feedback, Butch!!

I really appreciate it!!
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